Freedon Nadd vs Exar Kun

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NewGuy01 perpetual
Ragnos chose Vitiate, though.

Not to be DLOTS; he (apparently) took him as a disciple for a while and left him to rule Medriaas. He was never said to have approached him again, and it's implied that he (and the other AS) weren't supportive of his actions thereafter.

Freedon Nadd Senior Member

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Not to be DLOTS; he (apparently) took him as a disciple for a while and left him to rule Medriaas. He was never said to have approached him again, and it's implied that he (and the other AS) weren't supportive of his actions thereafter.

I see.
But still(when this accolade) was made. Vitiate didn't even exist.
I remember that he stayed in shadows when Sadow and Kressh fought in the Hyperspace War.
Who knows?
But maybe the same could be said about Exar Kun. The Sith spirits didn't support Exar Kun either(except when Ragnos made Kun a Dark Lord because there was no one else left)

It's interesting that Freedon Nadd(in his final moments) claimed that Kun was a pretender and that the future of Sith lies with Satal and Aleema.

SunRazer Back From The Dead

Vitiate still becomes DLotS by Kun's time, though, since his own Empire was already established by then.

NewGuy01 perpetual

So? As far as I know, a figure of worship or not, he was still never bestowed that title.

SunRazer Back From The Dead

He's referred to as such, IIRC. I'll find a source when I get bothered.

NewGuy01 perpetual

Is he? I'll be waiting for that source, then.

Well, not really.

SunRazer Back From The Dead

Well, I scanned Vitiate's respect thread to see if there was anything, and whilst this isn't the source I had in mind, it'll do:

Nathema: Once known as Medriaas, Nathema was an agriworld of the Sith Empire at a time when Sith also controlled the Chorlian sector. An ancient Dark Lord of the Sith named Darth Vitiate destroyed all life on Nathema with a ritual designed to grant him immortality. A transcription of this ritual was recorded by Darth Revan and served as the inspiration for Lord Kaan's thought bomb on Ruusan.

-- Force & Destiny: Core Rulebook

NewGuy01 perpetual

Darth Vitiate?

No wonder I didn't remember that, your source is fvcking disgusting. 🙂

SunRazer Back From The Dead

You didn't expect Vitiate to remain as a mere Lord, did you? 🙂

NewGuy01 perpetual

I expected him not to bother with names at all, he's the Sith Emperor.

SunRazer Back From The Dead

So was Palpatine.

NewGuy01 perpetual

He was named Darth long before he took on the mantle of Emperor. Besides, he seemed to have abandoned the name by RotJ/DE.

SunRazer Back From The Dead

Vitiate would've been named a Darth long before he became Emperor as well. And he also would've abandoned it upon becoming Emperor. 🙂

NewGuy01 perpetual

How's that? I don't recall any Darth Naga Sadows or Darth Ludo Kresshes running around at the time; that trend appeared to start only after Vitiate established himself as Emperor.

SunRazer Back From The Dead

He's called Darth Naga Sadow in The Essential Guide to Warfare, IIRC.

NewGuy01 perpetual

Also disgusting.

SunRazer Back From The Dead

Still factual 🙂

Freedon Nadd Senior Member

Originally posted by SunRazer
He's called Darth Naga Sadow in The Essential Guide to Warfare, IIRC.

That was a mistake. Naga Sadow was never called 'Darth'. They admitted it later.

SunRazer Back From The Dead

Thank god, actually.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Pretty sure Force and Destiny is in-universe or from a limited narrator, hence the Darth Vitiate.

Alternatively, Vitiate could have created the title himself, since the first people who have it are Revan/Malak and then his own Sith Empire.

Andeddu is a possible exception, but there's no date on his life so it could have taken place after Revan/Malak were a thing.