Why do peoole hate Darth Bane?

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Re: Re: Why do peoole hate Darth Bane?

Originally posted by Geistalt
Never got injured.
what

That is, until the end (when he disintegrated himself).

Didn't he get pretty ****ed up in the Tython fight because of Worror?

He had shiim inflicted on his wrist and knocked himself out via Lightning.

Not even getting encapsulated in a sphere of his own lightning and almost dying?

Edit: He was severely wounded because of Worror, so saying he was never injured despite nearly dying during the Tython fight is disingenuous at best.

Yeah shit always went Bane's way and he never got injured... aside from when Republic soldiers caused circumstances that lead to him being forced off his homeworld into the Sith army, when Sirak brutally injured him and he lost his ability to call on the Force, when he ventured to the Korriban tombs for knowledge and got dick all for his efforts except almost starving to death, when he got poisoned to the point where he couldn't even speak on Ambria, when he got plagued by Qordis and Kaan's ghosts to the point where he crashed his ship, when he failed in repeated lengthy attempts to construct a holocron, when he struggled with controlling the orbalisk bloodlust, when he got injured to the brink of death on Tython, when he was confronted with the problem of aging and had to spend half a book looking for a solution to that problem, when he got captured, then when he was imprisoned, then when he died.

But no, Bane's just some Gary Stu who jumps in dick first with no forethought and hits success 95% of the time. 👆

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah shit always went Bane's way and he never got injured... aside from when Republic soldiers caused circumstances that lead to him being forced off his homeworld into the Sith army,
'cept he didn't regret it.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
when Sirak brutally injured him and he lost his ability to call on the Force, when he ventured to the Korriban tombs for knowledge and got dick all for his efforts except almost starving to death,
'cept he regained it and it all paid off in the end, when he decided to reclaim the Darth title to establish his superiority.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
when he failed in repeated lengthy attempts to construct a holocron,
'cept he eventually succeeded.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
then when he died.
'cept that was the plan.

And all he cared about was his legacy.

"Nearly dead from exhaustion and hunger, Bane returned to the Academy two weeks later to learn that the students were to be raised to the level of Dark Lords of the Sith on the orders of Lord Kaan,"

Nothing but self-obsessed. Ever. The entirety of his (and Zannah's) character development can be summed up as:

everyone else: "Why are you doing this?!"

Bane/Zannah: "Because I'm an a$5hole."

And he solved all those problems with the same fvcking approach: "try rly hard."

Aside from (conveniently) having heard about the Thought Bomb from Revan (hail his mighty name).

It's not so much of an outrage at Bane in hindsight; just frustration at those who wank him (and Drew Karpyshyn for taking any opportunity he could find to paint Revan as "teh ossimst Sith Lord evar"😉.

Oh man, a protagonist overcomes his challenges and succeeds in the end? What a ****ing garbagefire power fantasy piece of shit.

Dmb is right, Bane fails tons and has a bunch of stuff go wrong for him. Yall are just being silly.

It's not that he succeeds, its how he does it.
Powering through with the Dark Side like a juggernut is much more akin to Galen Marek, or Anakin Skywalker. Bane, on the other hand, in his conception was a genius, a manipulator, a man of intelligence primarily and power secondly. For him to be physically imposing and powerful is understandable, he's a major stepping stone in Sith history, but for him to just fail once, then immediately leap onto another level and proceed to succeed a dozen times, all the while being built up as "Er mah Gawd, so powahful!" isn't what Bane is suppose to be.

I still like his character and concept, but really Drew handled him more as Vader on steroids than, say, a parallel to Sidious who works behind the scenes and solves problems by being smart primarily.

Weak sheep like mindset.

I don't know about any of that, but he's certainly boring as hell.

Can someone post the threads of DMB's best arguments for Bane here on KMC?

They can be found on his personal website here:
http://dmbempire.forumotion.com/t303-count-dooku-fated-xtasy-vs-darth-zannah-emperordmb

The dude will actually argue Zannah > Dooku kek

DMB used to be one of my more favorite/respected members here, but I've since recognized him to be a sniveling coward who backs down to slightest bit of resistance.

A true fanboy would defend their favorite character to the death, but no, DMB allows Bane to get walked all over.

Also he clearly low-balls Dooku simply because he hates the man's personality, which I find appalling.

He claims that Dooku is some evil murdering psychopath, which I won't completely deny, but Bane is no better (you could argue he's much worse than Dooku as a sadist).

Neither Bane or Galen are Gary Stus.

Originally posted by Kurk
They can be found on his personal website here:
http://dmbempire.forumotion.com/t303-count-dooku-fated-xtasy-vs-darth-zannah-emperordmb

The dude will actually argue Zannah > Dooku kek

DMB used to be one of my more favorite/respected members here, but I've since recognized him to be a sniveling coward who backs down to slightest bit of resistance.

A true fanboy would defend their favorite character to the death, but no, DMB allows Bane to get walked all over.

Also he clearly low-balls Dooku simply because he hates the man's personality, which I find appalling.

He claims that Dooku is some evil murdering psychopath, which I won't completely deny, but Bane is no better (you could argue he's much worse than Dooku as a sadist).

I meant on KMC here.

His personality is why Dooku is actually lowballed in general across various sites. He doesn't have the near invincible aura of Sidious or the badass appearance/style of Windu, Kenobi or Maul, or the fearsomeness of Vader. In general, he is not seen as that cool compared to the above people. At least that is the general opinion. Dooku, while his abilities may be solid, doesn't really exude that sense of power or victory you would expect from someone of his calibre.

Don't see why people would hate him though. Personally I find him interesting. DMB is probably one of the few people I have seen that openly dislikes Dooku, if what you are saying about him is correct.

Originally posted by Kurk
A true fanboy would defend their favorite character to the death, but no, DMB allows Bane to get walked all over.

To be fair, he kept it up for a couple of years, but he caved under the pressure long before your time.

I don't dislike Dooku's personality, in fact I actually appreciate how he's written and acted.

The irritation I've expressed is moreso how some people treat him as this sympathetic character whose just trying to do what's right deep down and think he upholds some moral standard that other Sith don't... when that clearly is not how he's written.

It's like with Killmonger in Black Panther, I actually thought he was a pretty solid villain, but the moral apologism for him by some of his fans irritated the **** out of me.

Originally posted by Kurk
He claims that Dooku is some evil murdering psychopath, which I won't completely deny, but Bane is no better (you could argue he's much worse than Dooku as a sadist).

So no Kurk, my complaint is not that I have a problem with Dooku being an evil murdering psychopath, my complaint is that some people (not you) deny he's an evil murdering psychopath.

Originally posted by Geistalt
I don't really hate anyone (fictional or otherwise), but Bane was meant to be the weakest of the Banite Sith. Until you acknowledge this, you're a fool (and, ironically, miss the point of his message). And people tend to wank him by focusing solely on his feats, ignoring the fact that he relied on dark side Force nexuses.

That being said, Sidious absolutely deserves to be considered the most powerful unamped dark-sider, and it would be nice to see another dark side organization follow the Rule of Two.

Sidious also made use of Dark Side nexi: Kalakar Six, the Eclipses, Byss