Maxima Vs Wonder Woman

Started by Zack M10 pages

So, where is this WW is immune to telepathy?

Happened in Sacrifice. Something about the Lasso of Truth protecting her.

Speaking of immunity, I know John Ostrander also established all New Gods are completely immune to tp in his Martian Manhunter series. That happened well after Panic In the Sky, I believe.

However, Byrne also established everyone on Apokolips is conditioned to resist tp below Darkseid's own, which should include Orion.

What this means to Maxima KO'ing him is up to debate. (Personally, I prefer to think it was a TK blast, instead of TP. Even though she did reference his mind specifically..)

Posted this in a different thread, but it is better-suited here...

A weakened Maxima uses TK to close one of the massive fissures created by Starbreaker, which nearly destroyed Almerac:


*Confirmation that she closed/sealed the fissure alone:
http://i.imgur.com/3ZLItjd.jpg

And as I said: Maxima was very weak at the time, as she had just been attacked by Starbreaker the issue prior:
http://i.imgur.com/jK4FQk5.jpg

To give you a sense of scale, here is how large the fissure(s) were:

Had she not been "exhausted" at the time, even a feat of that magnitude would have been child's play... Max was crazy-powerful. 🙂

Originally posted by cdtm
Happened in Sacrifice. Something about the Lasso of Truth protecting her.

Speaking of immunity, I know John Ostrander also established all New Gods are completely immune to tp in his Martian Manhunter series. That happened well after Panic In the Sky, I believe.

However, Byrne also established everyone on Apokolips is conditioned to resist tp below Darkseid's own, which should include Orion.

What this means to Maxima KO'ing him is up to debate. (Personally, I prefer to think it was a TK blast, instead of TP. Even though she did reference his mind specifically..)

But one of her MAIN villains, Dr. Psycho has controlled her, so she's not immune.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman never tried to blitz Maxima ftl or anywhere near light speed.
Also Diana is highly resistant against TP. If Max can mindrape her almost instantly (no lingering fight) then she's the most powerful telepath in the universe I say. But then again if WW blitzes at ftl speeds then it becomes interesting.

Wonder Woman blitzes at FTL?

When Superman blitzed Wonder Woman in 'Sacrifice', not until a sonic boom is depicted, and not sooner than the Earth receding behind her with Kal's hands at her throat did it register that she should ask Hermes to give her speed or else get tossed into the sun.

A few scans from Superman 211 that showcases Supermans speed/reflexes compared to Wonder Woman:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11118/111184648/4030459-3852077380-20336.jpg - Wonder Woman attempts to destroy something just a bit in front of her, when Superman (standing quite a bit behind her), zips in and back-hands her away.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/118236/3573012-v22112.jpg - Wonder Woman tries to attack Superman from behind, before he turns to catch her hand while she in mid-strike) and stops her attack (though she was close enough for the tip of her blade to strike his cheek).

Originally posted by carver9
Not reflexes and everyone in your scan was looking right at Superman when he crashed through the roof, including Gorilla Grod. Your perception of scans are TERRIBLE.

Haha, right.
Originally posted by carver9
Beat H1 scan of slapping heat vision out of the air.

She blocks these stuff by aim blocking. Not even remotely impressive.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, right.
She blocks these stuff by aim blocking. Not even remotely impressive.

😂 😂

Aim blocking. You're hilarious.

WW has been mind wiped by Martian Manhunter.

White Martians.

Dr Psycho.

The Key.

Illusions and TP work just fine on her.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
WW has been mind wiped by Martian Manhunter.

White Martians.

Dr Psycho.

The Key.

Illusions and TP work just fine on her.

In comics there are specifics and details that change interpretations.
What were the specifics?
What was WW doing at the time these things happened, how fast was the mind wipe, was there prep or plot device, etc. In other words, scans with truthful summary would be nice.

Finally, WW does have feats of tp resistance that could possibly contradict these events. And I'm pretty sure that these events took more than a second. Diana has shown to travel ftl before. So she can cover 500m distance in less than 0.0000017 of a second.

Originally posted by Arabus
Wonder Woman blitzes at FTL?

When Superman blitzed Wonder Woman in 'Sacrifice', not until a sonic boom is depicted, and not sooner than the Earth receding behind her with Kal's hands at her throat did it register that she should ask Hermes to give her speed or else get tossed into the sun.

That's a low showing. You know that WW has blocked multiple beams of light. She also outran hv before. In comics and movies there are always inconsistencies. Just look at Supergirl show.

WW has the capability of blitzing Ftl by her outrunning HV.

Does Wonder Woman have resistance or immunity to telepathy?

Considering one of her rogue gallery is called Dr Psycho, and uses mental attacks....

Will post the scans of what I am referring to, btw, h1. But just so you know, the MM instance had no real context.

Originally posted by h1a8
In comics there are specifics and details that change interpretations.
What were the specifics?
What was WW doing at the time these things happened, how fast was the mind wipe, was there prep or plot device, etc. In other words, scans with truthful summary would be nice.

Finally, WW does have feats of tp resistance that could possibly contradict these events. And I'm pretty sure that these events took more than a second. Diana has shown to travel ftl before. So she can cover 500m distance in less than 0.0000017 of a second.

Casually mindwiped by MM:

Maxwell Lord mindwiped her:
http://topicstock.pantip.com/chalermthai/topicstock/2010/06/A9407824/A9407824-6.jpg

She was under an illusion which lasted 117 days to her, but minutes to others:
http://i.imgur.com/KkqddGl.jpg

Dr Psycho:
http://imgur.com/a/fhhwc

So yeah, enough to show that she is not immune, merely resistant.

Moreover, when she was possessed by Eclipso, Maxima has ALREADY possessed WW. Now, we can argue all day long whether Eclipso amps you (am sure people will say it does, in fact, I predict that people will say so), but the main point I am trying to make is that she is resistant, not immune. Immunity would mean no matter how amped, you'd be, well, immune.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 😂

Aim blocking. You're hilarious.


Yeah, aim blocking.

Read and weep.

And that chimes with MacDuffie, actually. She's not actually that fast - she's skilled, and practiced, like Bruce Lee.

Ha, well played.

Diana DOES have legit speedster feats that can't be attributed to "tricks", though. Outracing the Canary Cry is no Flash level feat, but it certainly proves she can block bullets without the bullseye drawing fire.

She is fast, just not speedster fast

She is speedster fast.

Did she enter the speed force under her own power?