Zods the only one here with a known limit on his durabity, but he also has the overall best combination of physicals imo and anybody he fights will have a long road ahead of them.
Thor has best offense by far and should be able to kill everybody but Kurse. But since him and Vision have such little screen time and nobody here can take Kurse out then Team 1 should win
Originally posted by ShadowFyreThor won't be able to hurt Zod. Zod endured shit beyond Thor without receiving a scratch.Thor has been hurt several times by shit far under Zod.
Zods the only one here with a known limit on his durabity, but he also has the overall best combination of physicals imo and anybody he fights will have a long road ahead of them.Thor has best offense by far and should be able to kill everybody but Kurse. But since him and Vision have such little screen time and nobody here can take Kurse out then Team 1 should win
Thor & Zod take this after a long fight, IMO, but I can see the other way around.
Pros for Kurse/Vision:
- Vision can go intangible
- Kurse had Thor at his mercy
Pros for Thor/Zod:
- As ShadowFyre stated, Zod's beyond anyone here in terms of physical capabilities.
- Thor has a lot of options with mjolnir if he doesn't decide to go fisticuffs with Vision or Kurse.
Problem with Vision is that Age of Ultron made it seem like he is the current big dog on the Avengers' block with Thor, but then in Civil War he was nerfed so that Iron Man's team didn't instant-win against Captain America and crew.
Kurse wins, even lowballing the grenade/s that killed him ( they are still powerful enough to crush a bullet proof being to the point that they don't even leave a drop of blood) they are still way outside anyone heres ability to recreate.
I won't calc it because it would end up with a number that is so high it's inevitably going to be claimed as pis.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Kurse wins, even lowballing the grenade/s that killed him ( they are still powerful enough to crush a bullet proof being to the point that they don't even leave a drop of blood) they are still way outside anyone heres ability to recreate.I won't calc it because it would end up with a number that is so high it's inevitably going to be claimed as pis.
This and Vision is such a wild card due to his intangibility, mind gem blasts, and vibranium body.
Shouldn't Zod be able to uppercut or grab and throw Kurse into outer space or something for at least a BFR?
EDIT: We know how Thor and Kurse would go, so really depends on who fights who and how a Vision vs Zod fight would go down.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Kurse wins, even lowballing the grenade/s that killed him ( they are still powerful enough to crush a bullet proof being to the point that they don't even leave a drop of blood) they are still way outside anyone heres ability to recreate.I won't calc it because it would end up with a number that is so high it's inevitably going to be claimed as pis.
Zod can easily beat Kurse. He's stronger, faster, and more durable. If you disagree on any of those three then name which ones and I'll prove it with ease.
Originally posted by John Murdoch
Thor & Zod take this after a long fight, IMO, but I can see the other way around.Pros for Kurse/Vision:
- Vision can go intangible
- Kurse had Thor at his mercyPros for Thor/Zod:
- As ShadowFyre stated, Zod's beyond anyone here in terms of physical capabilities.
- Thor has a lot of options with mjolnir if he doesn't decide to go fisticuffs with Vision or Kurse.Problem with Vision is that Age of Ultron made it seem like he is the current big dog on the Avengers' block with Thor, but then in Civil War he was nerfed so that Iron Man's team didn't instant-win against Captain America and crew.
There was a deleted scene in Age of Ultron where Thor and Vision do a proper fight. It ended in a draw, though to be fair neither used their proper powersets and just engaged in fisticuffs.
Originally posted by h1a8I'd love for you to ever prove the things you say.
Zod can easily beat Kurse. He's stronger, faster, and more durable. If you disagree on any of those three then name which ones and I'll prove it with ease.
Thor vaporized most of a city, Kurse no showed Thor's attack. Superman's best feat was overpowering the terraformers but they after quite some time and highballing the area, they crushed about 5 blocks.
Speed seems like a wash, Zod did nothing with his speed outside of bullrush.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
I'd love for you to ever prove the things you say.Thor vaporized most of a city, Kurse no showed Thor's attack. Superman's best feat was overpowering the terraformers but they after quite some time and highballing the area, they crushed about 5 blocks.
Speed seems like a wash, Zod did nothing with his speed outside of bullrush.
To be fair, Thor never hit Kurse with anywhere near city-busting blasts. Heck I don't even recall Thor hitting Kurse with Mjolnir.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
I'd love for you to ever prove the things you say.Thor vaporized most of a city, Kurse no showed Thor's attack. Superman's best feat was overpowering the terraformers but they after quite some time and highballing the area, they crushed about 5 blocks.
Speed seems like a wash, Zod did nothing with his speed outside of bullrush.
Thor didn't do shit.
Iron Man overloaded the engines full of energy. Show me Thor doing that without a plot device.
Thor didn't strike Kurse with the same blow. So the feat is irrelevant in proving Kurse durability.
Zod knocked Superman up a skyscraper (astronomical force), through skyscrapers (knocking them down). This is more force than anything Thor or Kurse experienced.
For durability, Zod got knocked through skyscrapers with no damage (knocking them down), and got knocked a mile away with no damage. This is more force than Thor or Kurse has ever output. AGAIN, WITH NO DAMAGE.
This is a huge difference in power.
Speed easily goes to Zod. Far too fast.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor didn't do shit.
Iron Man overloaded the engines full of energy. Show me Thor doing that without a plot device.
Thor didn't strike Kurse with the same blow. So the feat is irrelevant in proving Kurse durability.Zod knocked Superman up a skyscraper (astronomical force), through skyscrapers (knocking them down). This is more force than anything Thor or Kurse experienced.
For durability, Zod got knocked through skyscrapers with no damage (knocking them down), and got knocked a mile away with no damage. This is more force than Thor or Kurse has ever output. AGAIN, WITH NO DAMAGE.
This is a huge difference in power.
Speed easily goes to Zod. Far too fast.
I challenge you to a BZ in regards to your claim "Thor didn't do shit" in that scene.