Biggest wildcard here is Vision, IMO. But he is still a relatively unknown quantity. He was still a relative noob in AoU, but showed decent potential, but they had to tone him down, when fighting other heroes in CW, because otherwise he'd have murdered most of team Cap in like the first 15 seconds. He needs to have a showdown against a proper powerhouse before we can better gauge his ultimate power level.
Edit: I know he and Thor had a scuffle in AoU's deleted scene. But it is exactly that. Deleted. Plus, he was literally a newborn at that point, and neither of them really unleashed anywhere near their full arsenal, so can't gain much info from that.
Originally posted by Silent MasterAre you referring to this thread?
Again, if I can prove that you said me being right means that I'm a troll, do you agree to being banned for 6 months?
And if you can't prove that I said it then you get 6 months ban?
You have to prove that I literally said, "you being right means that you are a troll "
Originally posted by h1a8
Knocking Mjolnir out of the air has nothing to do with the not being able to lift it. The enchantment doesn't make Mjolnir unstoppable but unliftable. It still can be pushed back laterally.
It's not just enchanted for lifting, we've seen this when QS tried to grab it in mid air.
Originally posted by SurturHe's not strong enough to counter Thor's force. You still have to be superhumanly strong with good friction force on your feet. Thor throws the hammer with more force than someone's weight. Thus they have to get carried away by Mjolnir if they grab it unless they have firm footing and Superhuman strength.
It's not just enchanted for lifting, we've seen this when QS tried to grab it in mid air.
Also, by your logic, you are suggesting that Kurse could lift Mjolnir off the ground. Is this true? If not then you can't equate Kurse knocking Mjolnir back with Hulk trying to lift it. If so, then you only proved that Kurse is stronger than Hulk. But Zod is significantly stronger than Hulk anyway.
Also Thor throwing the hammer is different than being summoned. A solid thick metal door could stop the hammer from bring summoned.