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Hillary won the popular vote against Trump. Throw in the democrat who was already more popular than her (see 2008 primary) before she did a bunch of atrocious despicable shit that made everyone hate her, and there's no contest really. Not to mention the fact that Obama has 10X as much charisma as Hillary.
Originally posted by Surtur
I don't know what to say. Obviously a big part of me thinks Obama would win, but then I remember how everyone thought Hilary was guaranteed victory as well and it back fired.
Taken from another forum but Salient:
David Shedd, former chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency, told the Daily Beast.
World powers spy on each other; it’s what they do. The U.S. engages in this sort of unsavory stuff all the time, so there’s no moral higher ground to stand on while finger-wagging at Russia. Clinton’s emails may well contain damning information of the sort that often comes to light when we get a look at how the political sausage is made. All that said, the departure from the everyday to be witnessed here is that Russia is the prime suspect in a cybercrime undertaken to manipulate an American presidential election on behalf of a dangerous, anti-democracy demagogue.
That same demagogue, the Republican Party’s candidate of choice, has now publicly requested that our geopolitical frenemy muck with the U.S. democratic process so he can gather the spoils. On paper, the DNC hack seems like a poorly conceived remake of a 1980s Cold War film, the details tweaked for digital age relevance, with Kremlin-backed hackers, a Watergate-style cyberattack and theft of embarrassing secrets from a major U.S. political party. Were it unfolding on a multiplex screen, the story would undoubtedly seem hokey and even hamfisted. The real-life situation playing out on a global stage is far more risky for much of the world.
Originally posted by Surtur
I don't know what to say. Obviously a big part of me thinks Obama would win, but then I remember how everyone thought Hilary was guaranteed victory as well and it back fired.