Rate the following MA guys from best to worst

i wouldn't say handclaps are legal in a MA fight with rules. I was thinking just fists and kicks and grabs would be allowed with MA rules.

I could be wrong. but I'd still give to cap (maybe not overall) over juggernaut in a 3 round fight with rules. actually the rules
are the only reason I think cap has a chance against.

here's how I see it:

there isn't a whole lot of space to get a good momentum to activate jugs power as much as he would like. also caps agility to so I think he could flip, dodge, move around the ring better than he. juggs will get a good momentum but have to stop before he leaves the ring or change direction away from cap. if juggs doesn't try to build his momentum he's just really strong and cap can use his martial arts prowess to come out on top.

Originally posted by staxamillion
i wouldn't say handclaps are legal in a MA fight with rules. I was thinking just fists and kicks would be allowed with MA rules.

I could be wrong. but I'd still give to cap (maybe not overall) over juggernaut in a 3 round fight with rules. actually the rules
are the only reason I think cap has a chance against.

here's how I see it:

there isn't a whole lot of space to get a good momentum to activate jugs power as much as he would like. also caps agility to so I think he could flip, dodge, move around the ring better than he. juggs will get a good momentum but have to stop before he leaves the ring or change direction away from cap. if juggs doesn't try to build his momentum he's just really strong and cap can use his martial arts prowess to come out on top.

dude... you are saying that if juggernaut just stands and fight, cap will take him down in a ring fight??? how can cap come out on top in a H2H fight vs juggernaut?

Un. Real. 😂

only by decision

Originally posted by staxamillion
only by decision

but how? you believe juggernaut wont ko him??? what damage can cap do to him? his fighting abilities are too much for cap.

well I am assuming that there are rules and point systems in play. I don't think it will come down to damage but points.

Originally posted by staxamillion
well I am assuming that there are rules and point systems in play. I don't think it will come down to damage but points.

if they fight in a ring, juggernaut himself as far as size already covers more than half of the ring. cap wont be able to avoid him. he can just thunderclap or smash the ring. his huge long reach will catch and tag cap easily. after that its game over for cap the lesser fighter. cap may do well with other heroes that dont want to harm him like even hulk. but juggernaut doesnt give a damn he is there to hurt cap and he will do it. his fighting abilities are too much for cap to handle. maybe galactus can match him in a H2H fight dont know. his fighting abilities are great as well.

ok

so you agree with me?

I humbly disagree.

you had me and handclaps you lost me at

Originally posted by Dareangel
they are fighting in the ring ok? martial art rules. MMA rules boxing rules, wrestling,

it doesnt matter where they fight it was just to portray a situation. fact of the matter is, if they fight H2H juggernaut will win. he is the better H2H fighter.

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Originally posted by Dareangel
so they are the best MA guys in this list?

You requested they be ranked based on skill. that means they are at the very bottom of the list as strength and durability aren't skills.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You requested they be ranked based on skill. that means they are at the very bottom of the list as strength and durability aren't skills.

i said H2H skills. what are H2H skills? its not about doing flips and acrobatics. if you see a boxer in the ring that can take a shot and doesnt go down. his durability is of a monster. then you see him punch someones head off. insane punching power. would you argue that boxer is not a skilled fighter because thats his durability and punching power? thats part of him as a fighter and part of his abilities and skills. thats why juggernaut and maybe galactus are best H2H fighters. very high level of fighting and MA skills.

Originally posted by Dareangel
i said H2H skills. what are H2H skills? its not about doing flips and acrobatics. if you see a boxer in the ring that can take a shot and doesnt go down. his durability is of a monster. then you see him punch someones head off. insane punching power. would you argue that boxer is not a skilled fighter because thats his durability and punching power? thats part of him as a fighter and part of his abilities and skills. thats why juggernaut and maybe galactus are best H2H fighters. very high level of fighting and MA skills.

Strength and durability are stats not skills. A boxer who can do nothing but tank punches until he manages to land a lucky shot is not skilled.

H2H skills doesn't mean having an invulnerable forcefield and strength granted to you by an Elder God through a mystical gem, but I may be wrong.

1. Batman/Cap
1.5 Daredevil/BP
2. Wildcat
3. Dredd (I don't actually know, this is just going by recent hype)
4. Superman
5. Hulk
6. Juggernaut
7. Monarch (nothing to base a higher ranking on)
N/A. Galactus (even less to base a higher ranking on)

Originally posted by Silent Master
Strength and durability are stats not skills. A boxer who can do nothing but tank punches until he manages to land a lucky shot is not skilled.

fighters develop their stats with training and with skill. a fighter that can take a punch and deliver a good one means he is usually a trained and skilled fighter.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
H2H skills doesn't mean having an invulnerable forcefield and strength granted to you by an Elder God through a mystical gem, but I may be wrong.

H2H skills is skills to fight H2H. if cap fights juggernaut H2H juggernaut will destroy him. so his H2H skills are greater.

Being an effective fighter is not the same thing as being a skilled one.

Rocky Balboa is effective. But only mildly skillful.