How technically skilled was sidious in saber combat?

We know he is a master of all the forms but is this really enough to judge his skill? After all many fodder pt era Jedi were called masters in lightsaber combat yet they failed against technically inferior opponents e.g cin drallig.

What specific sources cite Sidious as a masterful swordsman and not just one who is dependent on his augmentation abilities to defeat opponents?

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Nick Gillard said he's a master of every known weapon and style in the galaxy.

Otherwise he knows the rarest martial arts in the galaxy and imparted that knowledge on Maul, has mastered every lightsaber style and probably every weapon type.

Yet he also didn't start his training till quite late (certainly by jedi standards anyway)
How did he find the time to train in the force to such a level of mastery, lightsaber combat to such a high degree AND also become a hugely prominent politician so therefore going through a further education system and making a name for himself on naboo and eventually the entire galaxy!
IMPOSSIBLE I SAY!!

He's at the very least an equal of Mace Windu in technical skill, this is fact, although he could be argued as superior. Some sources portray him as an equal of Yoda, but some say he's inferior.

Regardless, he's in the top 4 lightsaber combatants ever, out of all eras. This is pretty much indisputable.

Moreso than anyone else, at least as of RotS.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Moreso than anyone else, at least as of RotS.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Moreso than anyone else, at least as of RotS.

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Originally posted by NewGuy01
Moreso than anyone else, at least as of RotS.

Is he more technically skilled than Dooku? In Makashi? How do we know his top 4 duelist ranking isn't due to his extreme augmentation abilities?

Originally posted by Kurk
Is he more technically skilled than Dooku?

Yes.

In Makashi?

No.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
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Who else?

Yoda, obviously.

Yoda isn't stated to be a master of numerous forbidden martial arts, nor Jar'kai(?) and doesn't really use a seamless mix of forms like Sidious does, which is probably the true hallmark of somebody who's mastered everything. In the end, Yoda's still more of a specialist than a generalist like Sidious.

Are we talking about quantity here, because I don't think so? And in quality Yoda has him beaten. Also weren't you the one who said one can't even comprehend Yoda's form without mastering every lightsaber form? Or at least something along that line, probably misquoted it horrendously.

Technical skill does come down to quantity, tbh. At least how it's conventionally measured here. We tend to treat it as "amount of forms mastered".

And yeah, Insider #62: Fightsaber claims that only once you've analyzed all the forms can you understand Yoda's fighting technique. That said, it's still distinctly Ataru.

SunRazer is running for spokesman of the hypocrites.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Yoda, obviously.

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Originally posted by SunRazer
Technical skill does come down to quantity, tbh. At least how it's conventionally measured here. We tend to treat it as "amount of forms mastered".

Lmao, we never f-ucking did that. Otherwise Kenobi and Mace would be more skilled than Dooku which you vehemently argued agaist shitloads of times.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Lmao, we never f-ucking did that. Otherwise Kenobi and Mace would be more skilled than Dooku which you vehemently argued agaist shitloads of times.

Based on what?

I used "mastered" in a loose sense, btw. I just mean practiced, though obviously a master of all forms > a novice in all forms, etc.