Originally posted by Stoicjane never fought a person like gladiator and countered his speed. This is jane we are talking about. I believe aquaman could speed blitz her and get a few wins. REMEMBER LIKE PR TOLD ME WE DONT ARGUE POWERSETS ON THESE FORUMS 🙄 SO!! going by these rules no jane will not be unleashing planetary storms, and godblasts and everything else THOR COULD DO TO KILL AQUAMAN, HULK, AND SUPERMAN IN A BLINK OF A EYE NO NO...jane will fight IN CHARACTER and get stabbed in the eyes.
Thor has magical lightning storms, wind storms, flight, teleportation and several other tools that Aquaman has no answer for. I'm hoping that you aren't trying to make Aquaman out to be a speedster like the Flash or Quicksilver because he really isn't. His speed isn't anything that Thor would be unable to react to either. Most people realize that Arthur is pretty powerful, but he isn't in Thor's weight class.
Originally posted by EcstaticGracecompletely agree. But we are talking jane and lil girl jane is not THOR Odinson. So she is nowhere near as impressive.
I agree Arthur isn't in Thor's physical weight class alot of characters aren't in regards to showings for it.But he does have a speed edge. Pre-Flashpoint he was stated by narration to have lightning fast movement, Post-Flashpoint he's atleast hypersonic by his own feats and scaling feats make him come off all the more better. He's not a speedster but he does have quick movement speed.
Magical Lightning doesn't help against a trident that can absorb Energy attacks. On top of this Aquaman does have the ability to harm Thor with the trident. It's just if he gets the chance to is the question.
Thor Odinson has a strength, durability, and versatility edge.
Originally posted by mighty adam
I can see 6/10 for jane.
It doesn't go by how many fights out of 10. It goes by who got the better of whom out of 10.
Jane 80%/100% FTW and that's being extremely generous.
We don't argue power set, which is something that you're arguing by stating that Arthur is going to somehow blitz her. Just because he did that to Superman, does not mean that he would do it to Superman in a forum fight. In a forum match it would be more likely that Superman would, or Gladiator would do that to Arthur. It's called PIS, which is something that isn't permitted in a forum setting.
Since these two are in it to win it. Jane isn't going to be taking it easy on Arthur (a character that she doesn't know personally), unlike Superman. She'd cave his head in, which is why giving him even 20% is being extremely generous. The difference between Arthur and the Hulk is simple. One of these guys mitigates damage due to a hyper HF, and the other would not be able to. This is one of the largest reasons why the Hulk is able to continue fighting guys and winning against them in this particular weight class, of which Arthur does not belong in.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Damn... didn't know she could just leave it and go and do other things.. really makes the trident come off sad in comparison..Could end up being a 2 vs 1 just because of that..
It doesn't just do that, either.
http://viewcomic.com/the-mighty-thor-v2-011-2016/
Bonus feat, of Thor stopping an island made of solid gold. and throwing it into the sun.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I think it overall depends on what versatility entails, but yeah whoever has more destructive power should be overall more powerful and I agree Thor has more destructive power than Aquaman. Doesn't mean the latter can't harm the prior.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
AQ, has dodging repetitive lightning, being stated as having lightning fast reflexes. In his continuity.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
New52 strictly he has blitzing Diana,tagging an aerial Hawkman, out-processing a hypersonic craft
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Mljonir provides a travel speed edge, which doesnt result to much unless the character goes for a blitz.Mljonir doesn't give Jane faster reaction speed, Mljonir doesn't make her/him strike faster, Mljonir helps with moving to point a to b and that's pretty much it.
If we look at just strictly Jane I could probably bring up stuff close in strength, and durability.
What does he have close in str and dur? Jane Thor has ripped open vibranium/adamantium doors while weakening.
She's been smacked around from planet to planet by Odin.
Originally posted by Stoicno no pr the mod said it in his own words, pis off dose not mean thor flies up in space and rains down planetary scale lighting and winds that destory mountains. If he did he would never lose why because he has the greatest powerset in comics. Going by your logic hulk, superman should never EVER EVER beat him and in my opinion yes they lose 10/10 to thor well superman loses 6/10. And hulks HF has been over taxed and stopped working or hes been hurt so bad he turns back into banner which is why idk care what version of hulk you use he loses to superman 10/10 period. So going by these forums rules jane will fight AM like she do in the comics and win but he will get his licks in jane 7/10.
It doesn't go by how many fights out of 10. It goes by who got the better of whom out of 10.Jane 80%/100% FTW and that's being extremely generous.
We don't argue power set, which is something that you're arguing by stating that Arthur is going to somehow blitz her. Just because he did that to Superman, does not mean that he would do it to Superman in a forum fight. In a forum match it would be more likely that Superman would, or Gladiator would do that to Arthur. It's called PIS, which is something that isn't permitted in a forum setting.
Since these two are in it to win it. Jane isn't going to be taking it easy on Arthur (a character that she doesn't know personally), unlike Superman. She'd cave his head in, which is why giving him even 20% is being extremely generous. The difference between Arthur and the Hulk is simple. One of these guys mitigates damage due to a hyper HF, and the other would not be able to. This is one of the largest reasons why the Hulk is able to continue fighting guys and winning against them in this particular weight class, of which Arthur does not belong in.
Originally posted by mighty adam
no no pr the mod said it in his own words, pis off dose not mean thor flies up in space and rains down planetary scale lighting and winds that destory mountains. If he did he would never lose why because he has the greatest powerset in comics. Going by your logic hulk, superman should never EVER EVER beat him and in my opinion yes they lose 10/10 to thor well superman loses 6/10. And hulks HF has been over taxed and stopped working or hes been hurt so bad he turns back into banner which is why idk care what version of hulk you use he loses to superman 10/10 period. So going by these forums rules jane will fight AM like she do in the comics and win but he will get his licks in jane 7/10.
When Arthur has the ability to go round for round with Odin, then you may have a case.
If this were a swimming contest everyone would say that Arthur swims rings around Thor, which would be a 100% true statement, because it would be within his power to do so.
You say that Arthur will get his licks in, but Jane took heat from Kurse, who happens to be several times stronger than Arthur. I'm not seeing it in a forum fight. This is not me trying to low ball Arthur, it's just me seeing how much damage Thor can take and still get up.
It is not unheard of that Thor (any of them) has used their powers in a comic book. We can get off track by bringing other characters into this like the Hulk for example, but note that Thor (Odinson) has used lightning, and wind storms against the Hulk several times in the past, as well as on other characters. You seem to want to reduce this to a scenario that has Arthur using his trident against Jane, while making it seem like Jane is restricted to the use hammer strikes, and lighting.
She has the ability to use all of her powers against Arthur, and in so doing she wins easily. she's even used them on panel, so it's not as if it would be unheard of her using them here. She doesn't have to run from Arthur, as she has the strength, and durability advantage over him. Not sure what you're seeing here, but Arthur isn't in Thor's weight class at all.
Originally posted by Stoic
When Arthur has the ability [B]to go round for round with Odin, then you may have a case. [B]If this were a swimming contest everyone would say that Arthur swims rings around Thor, which would be a 100% true statement, because it would be within his power to do so.
You say that Arthur will get his licks in, but Jane took heat from Kurse, who happens to be several times stronger than Arthur. I'm not seeing it in a forum fight. This is not me trying to low ball Arthur, it's just me seeing how much damage Thor can take and still get up.
It is not unheard of that Thor (any of them) has used their powers in a comic book. We can get off track by bringing other characters into this like the Hulk for example, but note that Thor (Odinson) has used lightning, and wind storms against the Hulk several times in the past, as well as on other characters. You seem to want to reduce this to a scenario that has Arthur using his trident against Jane, while making it seem like Jane is restricted to the use hammer strikes, and lighting.
She has the ability to use all of her powers against Arthur, and in so doing she wins easily. she's even used them on panel, so it's not as if it would be unheard of her using them here. She doesn't have to run from Arthur, as she has the strength, and durability advantage over him. Not sure what you're seeing here, but Arthur isn't in Thor's weight class at all.
I wouldn't use some of this as evidence..
Odin historically by Marvel has been said to be below a 100tonner in regards to physicals without amping. Recently his powers have been suggested to be wavering which was mentioned in Loki: Agents of Asgard.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Wasn't Jane Thor wanked to all hell?
She was, but all new smell characters are. Should that take away from her feats to date though?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What has female Kurse done?
It was stated that she was as powerful as the original. At least I think that it was.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I wouldn't use some of this as evidence..Odin historically by Marvel has been said to be below a 100tonner in regards to physicals without amping. Recently his powers have been suggested to be wavering which was mentioned in Loki: Agents of Asgard.
Okay that may be true about the Odin part, so we can omit that little bit as evidence. However, Jane has bent a pretty thick piece of Admantium, which should prove without a shadow of doubt that she is far above Arthur in terms of strength alone. Her showing against Kurse should also show this, and that is without the use of her hammer alone without even bringing her other powers into this.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They never stated that....
We at least know that the female Kurse was pushing Thor around, and even was able to stop a hammer hit with her hand. We also know that Jane is capable of bending Adamantium. So in what way does this differ from what the original Kurse could do? The armor still holds the same charge that it did when the Beyonder empowered it according to on panel statement if I am not mistaken. Anything that can prove that female Kurse isn't as strong as the original?