Originally posted by ILSOk since you are familiar with the Ot ID say it's fair for you to represent the first three films against the Kelvin timeline trilogy from Star Trek. This will be a massive galactic war under our commands. We can see who is the superior debater and you can have Palpatine's shitty army at your command. What do you say ?
I dabble in such things, yes.
How does this stuff even spark an interesting conversation though? Let's face it. The forums are 40% drama, 40% trolling, 19% pissing contests and 1% meaningful discussion and debate. The the only person that I've debated that has ever sparked any meaningful and interesting conversation. Is Joker.
The thing about these forums is most of the times, they're too stubborn and afraid of the idea of being proved wrong. The forums praise someone for essentially doing the text equivalent of a child covering their ears and yelling "lalalallalala."This isn't some Harvard or Yale level debating tactic, this is a child's temper tantrum. The fact is this supposed tactic kills any intellectual thought and discussion. Because facts aren't being presented truthfully at times, sometimes they're manipulated and ripped from context, thus tricking the "jury." and in the rare occasions of LadyKulvax, they're knowingly or unknowingly forging documents that would help them win a case. Instead of a contest of facts, wits and the mind. What it devolves too is not a discussion where both parties want to leave with a new level of respect or admiration for both the character/subject they are debating, but rather it comes down to an obsession with beating and "destroying" them. No facts, just they're personal opinion and that, with all due respect ILS, doesn't cause a riveting discussion, it forces a debate and discussion to come to a grinding halt.
Just how I look at it anyway.
Originally posted by quanchi112Well since no one else will I'll give it a shot before I get out of here. I wanna get my shit together in other places so we'll do this sometime mid-February. Link me to this Kelvin trilogy on wikipedia.
Ok since you are familiar with the Ot ID say it's fair for you to represent the first three films against the Kelvin timeline trilogy from Star Trek. This will be a massive galactic war under our commands. We can see who is the superior debater and you can have Palpatine's shitty army at your command. What do you say ?
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
How does this stuff even spark an interesting conversation though? Let's face it. The forums are 40% drama, 40% trolling, 19% pissing contests and 1% meaningful discussion and debate. The the only person that I've debated that has ever sparked any meaningful and interesting conversation. Is Joker.The thing about these forums is most of the times, they're too stubborn and afraid of the idea of being proved wrong. The forums praise someone for essentially doing the text equivalent of a child covering their ears and yelling "lalalallalala."This isn't some Harvard or Yale level debating tactic, this is a child's temper tantrum. The fact is this supposed tactic kills any intellectual thought and discussion. Because facts aren't being presented truthfully at times, sometimes they're manipulated and ripped from context, thus tricking the "jury." and in the rare occasions of LadyKulvax, they're knowingly or unknowingly forging documents that would help them win a case. Instead of a contest of facts, wits and the mind. What it devolves too is not a discussion where both parties want to leave with a new level of respect or admiration for both the character/subject they are debating, but rather it comes down to an obsession with beating and "destroying" them. No facts, just they're personal opinion and that, with all due respect ILS, doesn't cause a riveting discussion, it forces a debate and discussion to come to a grinding halt.
Just how I look at it anyway.
This.