Originally posted by ILS
You're not wrong in some cases, but 1% is kind of a huge generalisation. That said, with the way things are looking, it may not be long before we truly descend into darkness.
ILS. When was the last time a debate didn't devolve into a flame war between two or more people? I understand having thicker skin and shit, but when its just constant shit talk. Then that kinda justifies the "1%" comment. But yeah. This place and CV are going down hill. Not that I care really.
Originally posted by ILSTondemonai is very busy and he said he would but won't be available until the summer. He unlike Ellimist I believed would see this through but I'm just impatient. I don't want to keep putting this off. I'll pm you the link and the specifics.
Well since no one else will I'll give it a shot before I get out of here. I wanna get my shit together in other places so we'll do this sometime mid-February. Link me to this Kelvin trilogy on wikipedia.
Re: When bias can lead to good arguments.
Originally posted by ILSlolno.
Just got to thinking. While debating the most boneheaded mother****er ever on Comic Vine (kbroskywalker) I realised something interesting; the fact this guy was simultaneously so bad at debating and so inevitably fixed into one way of thinking, it forced him to constantly make his arguments and attack his opponents from new angles. The sheer plethora of methods he can come up with to carry on an obviously failing battle on his part is at least impressive but probably some kind of legendary feat. So, perhaps logic dictates that the longer he tries, the more likely he is to stumble upon a better argument?
The more willing he is to reject logic to defend his opinion.
Originally posted by Rockydonovanghttp://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/
whats comicvine btw?
Originally posted by Geistalt
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/
Re: When bias can lead to good arguments.
Originally posted by ILS
Just got to thinking. While debating the most boneheaded mother****er ever on Comic Vine (kbroskywalker) I realised something interesting; the fact this guy was simultaneously so bad at debating and so inevitably fixed into one way of thinking, it forced him to constantly make his arguments and attack his opponents from new angles. The sheer plethora of methods he can come up with to carry on an obviously failing battle on his part is at least impressive but probably some kind of legendary feat. So, perhaps logic dictates that the longer he tries, the more likely he is to stumble upon a better argument?If you're impartial (lol), and don't feel particularly passionate about reaching a certain conclusion (elevating particular characters, establishing certain rules for everyone else to follow in debates), chances are you won't rack your brains thinking of new ways to prove your point. You might do the only sane thing and move on (which soon I'm going to do, but for now you all still have me hooked).
So am I onto something or is this more resident shrink ILS bullshit? I know my prime directive since day 1 has been give Maul the best goddamn case you can while making as few logical blunders as possible, among others, and I'd be lying if I said I hadn't cycled out a few shit arguments in favour of better ones along the way. But what about others, or yourself?
I think everyone is biased, everyone has some sort of like towards a character, or a distaste for a character, a frustration towards a specific topic, a need to address a controversy - everyone has some of bias in them, but that doesn't give you the right to blow it out of proportion by calling them out on their bias and demonize them. I am biased towards some Star Wars characters and topics - I often get the urge to strongly disagree with someone else's opinion on characters and make a case against their opinion by deconstructing their posts with walls of text and be unbelievably persistent and tireless - but does that mean everyone can call me out on my bias? No. Being biased isn't always bad. In fact, being biased can lead to someone putting in a lot of effort, thought and passion into their argument.