Why does the Star Wars OT slide on so many of the same issues people hold the PT to?

corny scenes, hammy dialogue, over reliance on special effects... I'm talking about the Star Wars original trilogy of course...

these and more issues are some of the problems of the OT and the PT shares some of the same issues so why had the OT been given a pass and the PT hasnt?

Is it all just nostalgia holding it together or is there something inherently different about these movies compared to one another?

Originally posted by relentless1
nostalgia

Bingo.

Lol...at him pointing out the dialogue in these movies, Never was about suppose A+ grade dialogue.

Originally posted by relentless1
corny scenes, hammy dialogue, over reliance on special effects... I'm talking about the Star Wars original trilogy of course...

these and more issues are some of the problems of the OT and the PT shares some of the same issues so why had the OT been given a pass and the PT hasnt?

Is it all just nostalgia holding it together or is there something inherently different about these movies compared to one another?

These and many other points are why it the PT haters are just a bunch of whiny hypocrites.

One of the stupidest arguments about the PT being bad is the complaining about the politics being boring. It is like they never paid attention to the OT politics, at all. They are central to the OT and the OT is rife with them.

Anyway, I just call it "blankie syndrome." It is the same thing small children do as they get older. They can't let go of their "blankie" and still hold onto it for years as though it is the best thing ever.

Blankie syndrome is not just for Star Wars. There are many other instances where people think the "beginning" movies/games/books are better than the sequels or prequels.

Some people just HATE prequels of all kinds, like Queeq, because it messes with their creative vision and world building they do in their own mind. I think that is fair. If something comes along and destroys something they imagined while watching/reading, it can be quite irritating. Some people really enjoy using their imagination to fill in the gaps or write back stories to their favorite story.

It is nostalgia plain and simple. Im sure you'll hear some of the crybabies tell you why it's difference but they are lying to themselves.

Originally posted by dadudemon

One of the stupidest arguments about the PT being bad is the complaining about the politics being boring. It is like they never paid attention to the OT politics, at all. They are central to the OT and the OT is rife with them.

Yes, politics is boring to watch. Especially when it's visually unnecessary to watch in a sci-fi movie.

Politics was a plot device in the OT. There was no need to waste time with scenes of the senate meeting or Jedis gathered to whinge about their diminishing status.

And who really cared about a trade embargo when there's no mention of the actual plight it would lead to?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Some people just HATE prequels of all kinds, like Queeq, because it messes with their creative vision and world building they do in their own mind. I think that is fair. If something comes along and destroys something they imagined while watching/reading, it can be quite irritating. Some people really enjoy using their imagination to fill in the gaps or write back stories to their favorite story.

Oooh... getting personal again.

I liked Godfather II... that was part prequel and that was really damn good. It can be done but only if you consider it as a separate movie with a real story, without depending on the original (or its pre-existing sequels).

Here are some prequels I liked a lot (proving you wrong, dadudemon!):
Monsters University
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Casino Royale
Batman Begins
X-Men: First Class
Rise of the Planet of the Apes

Originally posted by queeq
Monsters University

What? No sense of humour?

Originally posted by relentless1
Is it all just nostalgia holding it together or is there something inherently different about these movies compared to one another?

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Bingo.

Yes. It is Nostaliga but it is that exact NOSTALGIA that have lead to all of the Modern Movies being big Blockbusters....even tho they suck bantha balls.

Originally posted by queeq

Here are some prequels I liked a lot (proving you wrong, dadudemon!):
Monsters University
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Casino Royale
Batman Begins
X-Men: First Class
Rise of the Planet of the Apes

Begins, Royale and Rise aren't prequels they are reboots

Nostalgia+likeable characters.

Actually I would say its more of Likable Characters = Nostalgia.

Plinkett's review of the prequels does a good job of telling us the differences between the films. People just are more engaged with the characters from the OT.

The prequels seem dull and sterile.

Rots was awesome. That was a prequel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rots was awesome. That was a prequel.

Sure it was Skippy... Sure it was.. 🙄

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rots was awesome. That was a prequel.

If you delete every love scene with Anakin and Padme, sure.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Sure it was Skippy... Sure it was.. 🙄 [/B]

Originally posted by Surtur
If you delete every love scene with Anakin and Padme, sure.

Originally posted by relentless1
corny scenes, hammy dialogue, over reliance on special effects... I'm talking about the Star Wars original trilogy of course...

these and more issues are some of the problems of the OT and the PT shares some of the same issues so why had the OT been given a pass and the PT hasnt?

Is it all just nostalgia holding it together or is there something inherently different about these movies compared to one another?

Corn, ham and cheese factors are something that often do better in the first outing than in follow ups. Not saying it's right or wrong; it just is.

Having said that, there are some people who do the opposite, they'll praise the newer films; yet smash the OT for the same factors they've enjoyed the newer films for. Granted, these people are few compared to the PT/Newer film bashers, but they do exist.