Why does the Star Wars OT slide on so many of the same issues people hold the PT to?

Started by Flyattractor4 pages
Originally posted by Surtur
If you delete every love scene with Anakin and Padme, sure.

Oh be thankful they cut as much as they did.

If you have seen the Special Features Cut Scenes....You will know what I am talking about.... 😛

I actually think we would have benefitted from a lot of the deleted scenes being put back in...specifically the seeds of rebellion sub plot

Originally posted by Surtur
If you delete every love scene with Anakin and Padme, sure.

You can always skip those.

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Originally posted by queeq

Here are some prequels I liked a lot (proving you wrong, dadudemon!):
Monsters University
Rise of the Planet of the Apes

Bit of mistake here for Monsters university, Monsters Inc Sully tells mike that he's been jealous of his good looks since 4th grade, bit of a continuity error there

Is Rise of the planet of the apes really a prequel? Thought it was more part of a reboot

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You can always skip those.

I sure can, but when discussing the quality of a film I feel it best all scenes get included in such a discussion. Thus it would be wrong for me to not even consider the shitty love scenes.

Originally posted by Surtur
I sure can, but when discussing the quality of a film I feel it best all scenes get included in such a discussion. Thus it would be wrong for me to not even consider the shitty love scenes.

True.

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Originally posted by steverules_2
Bit of mistake here for Monsters university, Monsters Inc Sully tells mike that he's been jealous of his good looks since 4th grade, bit of a continuity error there

Is Rise of the planet of the apes really a prequel? Thought it was more part of a reboot

So continuity errors made Monsters University less enjoyable? All the SW PT have serious, really serious continuity errors. But the PT lovers don't like us mentioning them.

And Rise... technically it is a prequel. So is Dawn and War... they all predate the original POTA chronologically and its sequels. So yes, it certainly IS a prequel series. And in doing so it is also a reboot. In that way it's identical to the SW PT: a prequel series. Except the new POTA movies actually make sense and are damn good (so far).

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Originally posted by queeq
So continuity errors made Monsters University less enjoyable? All the SW PT have serious, really serious continuity errors. But the PT lovers don't like us mentioning them.

And Rise... technically it is a prequel. So is Dawn and War... they all predate the original POTA chronologically and its sequels. So yes, it certainly IS a prequel series. And in doing so it is also a reboot. In that way it's identical to the SW PT: a prequel series. Except the new POTA movies actually make sense and are damn good (so far).

Never said it made it less enjoyable. I enjoyed monsters university. And yes the Star wars PT did have plenty of continuity errors but I didn't wanna state the obvious.

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Originally posted by queeq
Oooh... getting personal again.

It was a compliment.

I mean, really? Seriously.

😐

Stop looking for reasons to argue. This thread is a trigger topic for both you and me, obviously. 😉

Originally posted by queeq
Here are some prequels I liked a lot (proving you wrong, dadudemon!):

I don't remember posting that you hate all prequels, only that you hate prequels of all kinds.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Having said that, there are some people who do the opposite, they'll praise the newer films; yet smash the OT for the same factors they've enjoyed the newer films for. Granted, these people are few compared to the PT/Newer film bashers, but they do exist.

I have never seen this person. Unless you're talking about Quanchi?

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Originally posted by queeq
So continuity errors made Monsters University less enjoyable? All the SW PT have serious, really serious continuity errors. But the PT lovers don't like us mentioning them.

And Rise... technically it is a prequel. So is Dawn and War... they all predate the original POTA chronologically and its sequels. So yes, it certainly IS a prequel series. And in doing so it is also a reboot. In that way it's identical to the SW PT: a prequel series. Except the new POTA movies actually make sense and are damn good (so far).

Well...no...it is a reboot. It is pretty good, though.

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Originally posted by queeq

And Rise... technically it is a prequel. So is Dawn and War... they all predate the original POTA chronologically and its sequels. So yes, it certainly IS a prequel series. And in doing so it is also a reboot. In that way it's identical to the SW PT: a prequel series. Except the new POTA movies actually make sense and are damn good (so far).

Yep, Even the Icarus ship which Charlton Heston character was on in POTA. Got a mention in Rise of the Planet of the Apes It got launched.

The OT are legitimately better films. All the negatives people say the OT shares with the PT, however valid, miss the point that the OT has far less of them.

The OT has largely better acting. Better scripts. Better direction. Better pacing. The only thing it really lacks behind on is effects, imo.

The PT does have good to it, but the OT still holds up today far better than the PT will in 10-20 years imo.

The PT wasn't that bad but I have to admit they're not as good as the OT. For me, Revenge Of The Sith was the best in the PT since it connected to Episode 4 of the OT.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Well...no...it is a reboot. It is pretty good, though.

They are as much prequels as the SW PT is. These new movies tell us how the apes came to ruling the planet. The original POTA starts when a couple of astronauts land in earth in the far future.

You can argue it any way you want, but the new Apes movies ARE prequels. And as a series of prequels, they are also a reboot. Just like the SW PT was (as it turned out).

Originally posted by Igniz
The PT wasn't that bad but I have to admit they're not as good as the OT. For me, Revenge Of The Sith was the best in the PT since it connected to Episode 4 of the OT.

Despite the fact that even ROTS failed on the main plot points i.e. Anakin's fall to the Dark Side, which was utterly ridiculous?

The trouble with the PT was it was made by an old Out of Touch Grandpa who was trying to make something Dem Der Kids would Like and wouldn't listen to any one telling him he was being an old fart head.

But we still love ya Granpa Georgie!!!!!!!!

This is all subjective and the hypocrisy has been duly noted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is all subjective and the hypocrisy has been duly noted.

😂