Originally posted by golem370The only thing Runner was able to do with the gem is subconsciously teleport from one place to another. He certainly was not capable of using any of the gem's more esoteric abilities, despite wielding it for billions of years.
With the Space Gem he could slow Superman's speed from what I read or momentum.
Originally posted by Galan007
Even IF we assume his fear of speedsters would play a factor against Runner, Prime does have ways to 'counter' speedsters... Most notably, something like this:But tbh, even the lowliest members of the Flash Family that Prime has dealt with are still FAR beyond Runner... Prime would have NO reason at all to fear him.
By the way you sure about this? I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying are you sure and please elaborate on why you think that is.
Originally posted by Galan007
The only thing Runner was able to do with the gem is subconsciously teleport from one place to another. He certainly was not capable of using any of the gem's more esoteric abilities, despite wielding it for billions of years.
Don't think he had it for billions of years, don't think that changes anything anyway.
By the way you sure about this? I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying are you sure and please elaborate on why you think that is.
Fun to read, but nothing to take seriously.
SBP can surely win, just not in a stupid manner.
Originally posted by riv6672
There's been a lot of exaggeration in this thread. From the obvious, like ripping Runner in half & melting him, to the subtle, like implying his speed is sub par.Fun to read, but nothing to take seriously.
SBP can surely win, just not in a stupid manner.
Yea. In short I'm not sure that you can actually prove that any of The Flashes are actually faster than The Runner. Its not that the Flashes are actually faster it's that they're able to manipulate a form of energy that is unique to the DC universe. So you could argue that a Flash character is faster than a Marvel character because they have a feat were they run so fast they move back in time but it doesn't mean they're faster it simply means they have the speed force.
Technically any Marvel character should be able to have some degree of time travel if they can move many times the speed of light, especially when even Captain America is nowhere near lightspeed but can see things in slow motion. The reason why they don't go back in time is because that's not how things work in Marvel, however I think Surfer has done this but not sure whether it was speed or energy manip.
These are not all my thoughts on the issue I could go into how even in Marvel comics you can enter into different dimensions depending on how fast you travel etc etc.
Bottom line is I really don't think that the Flash side have really thought out they're arguments they have just made the assumption that The Flashes are faster. I could be wrong.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What's Runners best speed feat?Then we can go witH a Flashs best speed feat (quantifiable, not going through time or whatever) or SBPs.
Well he's supposed to be much faster than Surfer who can travel many times the speed of light. From what I can see in his feats you could argue that he can travel 100 or 1000s of times the speed of light. The Runner is a speedster by the way so his movement speed can be applied to his combat speed.
Originally posted by One-Punch
[b]"The Surfer and Dawn outsurfed the end of the multiverse and escaped through a tear in reality"More confirmation that Surfer was moving at a multi-universe/timelines spanning speed to escape multiversal destruction. [/B]
Anything that the Surfer can do Runner can do better i would assume if Runner had his own comic series he would have done the same