Exar Kun vs Darth Vader (Sabers only)

Why is Kun beating Vodo relevant in relation to his actual maximum prowess when this happened before his prime?

Because this is sabers only?

Yes, but people are discussing how Kun beating Vodo isn't that good, even though this was before he was even on his prime. That's like saying Vader lost to Kenobi, when the Vader that lost to Kenobi was pre-suit iteration and thus irrelevant in the discussion.

Yeah but the difference being is, that was Kun's last saber fight before becoming a spirit, he didn't use a lightsaber in spirit form. Meanwhile Vader still had a body and continued to use lightsaber combat after his fight with Obi-Wan.

So the only way we can gauge Kun's saber abilities is his fight with Vodo.

Because Kun has really no major other saber feats after that? Other than getting put on his ass by Ood Bnar, whom Vader would blitz.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Yeah but the difference being is, that was Kun's last saber fight before becoming a spirit, he didn't use a lightsaber in spirit form. Meanwhile Vader still had a body and continued to use lightsaber combat after his fight with Obi-Wan.

So the only way we can gauge Kun's saber abilities is his fight with Vodo.

Yes, but Vader's form and combative tactics changed drastically after his fight with Kenobi, so they can't really be compared effectively, just like Kun can't be compared with a less skilled version of himself when talking about his prime. We can say that Kun managed to beat Vodo pre-prime and take that into account.

EDIT - It doesn't matter that he doesn't have other feats, you're treating this fight like it was Kun at full-strength and maximum potential reached.