Who's faster: Palpatine or Yoda?

Started by Deronn_solo5 pages
Deronn_solo King Yami

Mind posting the statement in the script, pls?

Azronger Azronger Reborn

http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-Revenge-of-the-Sith.html

YODA unleashes a ferocious assault on PALPATINE, causing him to almost go over the edge. The Dark Lord drops his lightsaber but recovers with a BLAST OF ENERGY from his hands that surrounds YODA.

MythLord Diamond
Originally posted by Azronger
I don't know, nor do I need to.

You kinda do in order to justify this. :/
Yoda would've initially had to widdle away at Sheev's defense, before his speed can disarm him in three blows.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Azronger
Yoda. He moved twice as fast as Sidious in their duel and disarmed him in three blows, according to the junior novel, although some have questioned its validity.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Sounds like alternative facts yeah.
Azronger Azronger Reborn
Originally posted by MythLord
You kinda do in order to justify this. :/
Yoda would've initially had to widdle away at Sheev's defense, before his speed can disarm him in three blows.

No, I don't need to justify it in any way. What's canon is canon.

MythLord Diamond

Yoda three-shotting Sidious isn't canon. :/

ares834 Senior Member
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
Also, I believe Sidious was on the defensive the entire time.

Clearly you've never seen the film.

ares834 Senior Member
Originally posted by Azronger
Yoda. He moved twice as fast as Sidious in their duel and disarmed him in three blows, according to the junior novel, although some have questioned its validity.

Jesus...

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Originally posted by Azronger
http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-Revenge-of-the-Sith.html

YODA unleashes a ferocious assault on PALPATINE, causing him to almost go over the edge. The Dark Lord drops his lightsaber but recovers with a BLAST OF ENERGY from his hands that surrounds YODA.


Where the hell does it say yoda is 2x faster than sidious?

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Originally posted by ares834
Clearly you've never seen the film.

the film doesn't contradict wither, it just doesn't have those scenes

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

He's referring to the hyperbole in the ROTS junior novel, but interpreting it literally.

ares834 Senior Member
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
the film doesn't contradict witherr

Yes it does. We see Yoda on the defensive in the film when he is jumping around dodging Sidious's attacks...

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Originally posted by ares834
Yes it does. We see Yoda on the defensive in the film when he is jumping around dodging Sidious's attacks...

Uh, no, thats just using ataru, and dodging someone's attacks doesn't mean you're losing

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

I'd say the fight started with Palpatine on the offensive, switched to Yoda on the offensive when Palpatine almost fell off the pod, and then at the end was relatively equal.

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He's referring to the hyperbole in the ROTS junior novel, but interpreting it literally.

Well regardless the film never shows yoda being on the defensive, it just shows him using ataru and matching sidious in bladelocks, dodging someone's attacks isn't a show of inferiority anyway

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Depends what you're considering offensive / defensive. Taking the film frame-by-frame, Palpatne's striking more than Yoda.

From just eye-counting, Palpatine seems to get in over 20 attacks to Yoda's 15 (minus the scene where the pod is going up and it's too small to see).

Yoda definitely seemed to have more difficulty getting past Palpatine's outer-layer and landing blows than Palpatine did, which makes sense due to the height difference.

The times Yoda seized the advantage seemed to be after bladelocks, in which it appears he overpowers Palpatine most of the time and then followed up with some attacks.

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Depends what you're considering offensive / defensive. Taking the film frame-by-frame, Palpatne's striking more than Yoda.

From just eye-counting, Palpatine seems to get in over 20 attacks to Yoda's 15 (minus the scene where the pod is going up and it's too small to see).


Regardless of how many times he tried to strike his saber, its not like he ever drove yoda's aback. Yoda hopping around sidious was yoda trying to outmanuever him.
Regardless, sidious failing to land hit son yoda with those strikes doesn't at all indicate he had an advantage. And yet again, sidious uses the most offensive form anyway.
On the otherhand, actually driving someone(who is using the most attack orientated form back) and disarming off their saber is an indication of an edge.
Now you could argue it was due to an enviromental disadvantage, but then there's yoda forcing sidious into the pod in the first place.

ares834 Senior Member
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Well regardless the film never shows yoda being on the defensive, it just shows him using ataru and matching sidious in bladelocks, dodging someone's attacks isn't a show of inferiority anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DI8kkR9G0Q&t=161

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Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Originally posted by ares834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DI8kkR9G0Q&t=161

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I was talking about them as duelists. And regardless that exchange ends with sidious almost getting his faced smashed in by a pod. I mean if we really just want to ignore material outside of the movie, I could say sidious was ont he defensive in their lightning battle based on yoda stepping forward and sidious falling back

ares834 Senior Member

I don't care what you were talking about. I was responding to Nuisance Bird and nothing in their post suggested he was only talking about the duel (though that was likely his intention) so I posted a smart ass reply.