to use either of his melee weapons bp needs to get in close. and while his claws and daggers may hurt logan to some degree, logan's claws WILL kill bp if he closes. bp's only hope is to stay at range. if he has some powerful range weapon he could win. h2h with logan? i don't see how he has a realistic chance if logan is going for a kill.
Originally posted by leonidas
to use either of his melee weapons bp needs to get in close. and while his claws and daggers may hurt logan to some degree, logan's claws WILL kill bp if he closes. bp's only hope is to stay at range. if he has some powerful range weapon he could win. h2h with logan? i don't see how he has a realistic chance if logan is going for a kill.
Panther has no fear of getting in close.
This is too close to call Imo. Although they've been portrayed as relatively equal, Logan has never really used his martial arts against panther and panther hasn't used his arsenal of weapons again Logan. I say that this is a 50/50 split; I suppose if a gun were put to me head, I'd give panther the very slight nod because he uses skill, technique, and knowledge of exploiting the enemies weaknesses a bit more than Logan.
hmm, that all sounds good but...logan has no weakness. not classic logan. he's at least as fast by showings, at least as strong unless current np has some feats i don't know about and as skilled. i sort of keep hearing the same thing--bp wins because of tech. but what tech puts logan down exactly for a majority? logan literally needs one clean shot and it's done. bp needs to amass damage. do people really think logan is incapable of landing one clean shot before bp dances and kills logan with what would need to be several shots? i don't see that happening before logan ends him and i still haven't seen a viable way that bp wins this from anyone.
Agreed with Leo.
When strength, speed and skill are basically a wash, you have to look at the other factors.
BP would need to put down Logan by attrition. It's going to take a long time, this is the same guy that took a handful of uppercuts and hooks from WWH before being put down.
Logan just needs ONE good shot.
I see Wolvie winning 8/10, but with difficulty every time.
Originally posted by leonidasBP did get a strength upgrade when he became KotD. He managed to oneshot black swan (who's currently fighting thor), made namor bleed with a punch, and beat black dwarf (off panel, yes, but the other two feats imply that he could've sone it without help). Just wondering, how would Logan cope with getting his brain scrambled via energy dagger?
hmm, that all sounds good but...logan has no weakness. not classic logan. he's at least as fast by showings, at least as strong unless current np has some feats i don't know about and as skilled. i sort of keep hearing the same thing--bp wins because of tech. but what tech puts logan down exactly for a majority? logan literally needs one clean shot and it's done. bp needs to amass damage. do people really think logan is incapable of landing one clean shot before bp dances and kills logan with what would need to be several shots? i don't see that happening before logan ends him and i still haven't seen a viable way that bp wins this from anyone.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Special tranqs.
Only thing special about them was how strong they were. Enough to "take down a dinosaur", he said.
If he carries enough, T'challa could create the same effect from mass quantity, maybe. (Plus, you don't think he'd have that as part of an anti Logan protocol? Since everyone (including myself) was just assuming he probably has something cooked up to deal with Chi in that other thread (He certainly has the tech for it.)
Carrying around super drugs to put down Logan is less of a leap then assuming anti chi tech.
Originally posted by CosmicCometLogan just needs ONE good shot.
I see Wolvie winning 8/10, but with difficulty every time.
How does he need just 'one good shot". The best way for him to beat BP is by impaling him. The suit negates that. BP is also more skilled. That's the X factor when everything else is a wash.
Originally posted by leonidas
i don't see that happening before logan ends him and i still haven't seen a viable way that bp wins this from anyone.
In every encounter they've had. BP has either drawn or come out on top while holding back. He wasn't even trying to hurt Logan and still came out on top. IF BP could be taken down by Logan in one shot, how come Logan hasn't done it in any of their encounters?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They can phase through ada, but Logan's HF handled worse stuff.BP supporters use them in every thread, it's not a new tactic.
So the main weapon that would indisputably give Panther an advantage gets discounted because "Logan has handled worse." And as stated the daggers scramble brains, and also deaden nerves. One through the heart would be enough.