Plo Koon vs. AOTC Obi Wan

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
An in character opinion of Ventress that's taken at face value (but when we're discussing about characters they don't like, IC opinions aren't proof of anything).

It's hardly gospel. That said, given that the text states that "she knew" this, and had just faced Anakin earlier on, I'd say it's reliable.

Originally posted by SunRazer
It's hardly gospel. That said, given that the text states that "she knew" this, and had just faced Anakin earlier on, I'd say it's reliable.

Nobody can convince me that Obi Wan can replicate the Dreadnought feat from OCW. And then, some ridiculous shit as of RotS, as they canonically grew significantly during the TCW.

Originally posted by SunRazer
It's hardly gospel. That said, given that the text states that "she knew" this, and had just faced Anakin earlier on, I'd say it's reliable.

@TenebrousWay - Sounds like you're the one with the confirmation bias, not these other people that you're accusing. Also, TCW takes place just weeks after AotC. The dreadnought feat happens months later.

And Anakin's more powerful than Obi-Wan as of RotS, obviously. Far more powerful.

Originally posted by SunRazer
They're both level 7 for dueling. But Ventress claims that Obi-Wan is more powerful:

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Nobody can convince me that Obi Wan can replicate the Dreadnought feat from OCW. And then, some ridiculous shit as of RotS, as they canonically grew significantly during the TCW.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Fair, though their duels against Dooku certainly suggest otherwise.

Originally posted by SunRazer
@TenebrousWay - Sounds like you're the one with the confirmation bias, not these other people that you're accusing. Also, TCW takes place just weeks after AotC. The dreadnought feat happens months later.

And Anakin's more powerful than Obi-Wan as of RotS, obviously. Far more powerful.

Since when it's confirmation bias to demand evidence that Obi Wan could replicate that feat, considering he never came close of doing so all the way to RotS?

The second point is irrelevant.

Saying that "nobody can convince me" is not asking for evidence. And the Wild Space feat is a pretty good one to compare. I don't remember the specifics though.

It was in reference to your remark about RotS, unless I misinterpreted it.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Saying that "nobody can convince me" is not asking for evidence. And the Wild Space feat is a pretty good one to compare. I don't remember the specifics though.

It was in reference to your remark about RotS, unless I misinterpreted it.

I meant nobody could convince me with just a IC opinion of Ventress. 🙂

If you could give a brief description of the feat, I can remember which one it is.

The one where he cloaks and TK's Organa's ship simultaneously.

Beni being f-ucking oblivious and using retarded ABC logic is quite amusing.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
I meant nobody could convince me with just a IC opinion of Ventress. 🙂

If you could give a brief description of the feat, I can remember which one it is.

The feat you're asking for had Kenobi, less than a year post aotc, barely breaking a sweat, simulatnaoesly cloaking, holding together and guiding a 40 m ship a part of the way from coruscant to wild space.

I know which one it is.

http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=0f58d7-1482008748.png

It's a very good feat but:

1- The ship was far smaller than an atmospheric dreadnought.
2- He held the ship on basically zero gravity.

Obi Wan just had to hold the ship together and control it's vibration. Anakin tilted a massive dreadnought on pure reflex.

Organa's ship should weigh 1,500 tons at most while an atmospheric dreadnought should be around 300,000-500,000 tons, under the influence of normal gravity. Kenobi's feat pales in comparison.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Beni being f-ucking oblivious and using retarded ABC logic is quite amusing.

I'm not the one upset here, I'm just telling the truth.

Using Dooku to measure their power is retarded in it's own right since that's dueling, not Force. Besides that Kenobi used his secondary form, of which Dooku knew every weaknesses of, while Anakin on the other hand had a counter form to Makashi. Yeah that's f-ucking convincing evidence.

Also Kenobi stomped Ventress in the TCW movie. Get with the program...

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Kenobi sweeps. Stomping Ventress a few weeks after AotC as well as being more powerful than Anakin is plenty enough to beat Koon.

When did he stomp Ventress?

What do you mean "more powerful than Anakin"?

Nova already posted the quote saying Kenobi > Anakin in the TCW movie. And in the movie Kenobi stomped Ventress.

He was holding back against her until Anakin left the system. Both Kenobi and Ventress confirms this. He did that becuase if he beats Ventress quickly, she runs away as a f-ucking coward she is and she could go after Anakin. By playing with her she kept her attention by enraging her and when Anakin left he beat Ventress under 15 seconds.

If you want I can get you the quotes for this from the novel.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
I'm not the one upset here, I'm just telling the truth.

Using Dooku to measure their power is retarded in it's own right since that's dueling, not Force.

Besides that Kenobi used his secondary form, of which Dooku knew every weaknesses of, while Anakin on the other hand had a counter form to Makashi. Yeah that's f-ucking convincing evidence.

On the other hand no, there is no evidence Anakin has mastered Djem So yet.

Also Kenobi stomped Ventress in the TCW movie. Get with the program...

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
If you want I can get you the quotes for this from the novel.