Black Adam Vs Omni Man

Started by Sin I AM3 pages
Originally posted by deathslash
it's not because of similar powersets. We know for a fact that omni-man was far more powerful and much faster than mark in their first fight. When they see each other again, mark cheapshots him and it still doesn't cause him to bleed (he just states that mark has gotten stronger). When the three viltrumites show up to take Nolan to jail, he escapes and catches up to the viltrumite that was just about to catch mark (mark had a massive head start at this point and this once again shows how much faster he is). During the viltrumite war, [B] omni-man had to pull mark in order for him to keep up . So basically, in the beginning of invincible, mark is capable of flying halfway around the world in just about 30 seconds and Nolan is far faster than him (since he managed to finish a fight and catch up to mark), mark gets much faster and stronger (to the point where he can kill conquest, casually lift 400 tons, and tank a planet blowing up behind him and Nolan is still faster than him, and after the viltrumite war, their stats are basically a wash. I'm not assigning Nolan feats based off of mark; rather I'm using mark's speed and strength and Nolan's obvious superiority in those department to paint a clear picture of how fast and strong he is. [/B]

You're still not getting it. I'm saying you can't use Invincibles feats when arguing for Omni-Man period. You initially brought up instances to show they are equal then backtracked to reference superiority. If you wanted to show how fast/strong etc Nolan is y not use HIS feats.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Supreme is fine. It gives us a gauge...shows that he can hang with elites. Whats not cool is saying because Invincible did this Omni Man can do that. We dont arbitrarily assign feats due to similar powersets. Otherwise Bill would be equal to Thor/Firestorm equal to Surfer etc...

Agreed, but it seemed to veer into a different area...
Originally posted by Sin I AM
You're still not getting it. I'm saying you can't use Invincibles feats when arguing for Omni-Man period. You initially brought up instances to show they are equal then backtracked to reference superiority. If you wanted to show how fast/strong etc Nolan is y not use HIS feats.

...that you covered here.

Originally posted by deathslash
1. How fast is Jay (I swear to god, if you mention running back in time or anything that isn't an average.....)?
Fast enough that Omni-Man doesn't have feats to compete.

Originally posted by deathslash
2. How many is "multiple"? Cause if spider-man were to beat firelord twice, both instances would be considered PIS. It needs to have happened three to four times imo.
Black Adam is consistently in Jay's speed tier.

Greatfight Adam wins 7/10

Black Adam Wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Didn't he speed steal?

the only time Jay reach light speed was when he steal speed from black adam who was moving at mach 500

Jay has great reaction speed, but he's a mach speedster not a ftl

Originally posted by MrMind
the only time Jay reach light speed was when he steal speed from black adam who was moving at mach 500

Jay has great reaction speed, but he's a mach speedster not a ftl


facepalm

Jay has more lightspeed feats than pretty much anyone not named Flash or Superman. Even Max Mercury can reach near lightspeed nigh instantly and Jay is faster than him.

Originally posted by MrMind
the only time Jay reach light speed was when he steal speed from black adam who was moving at mach 500

Jay has great reaction speed, but he's a mach speedster not a ftl

no,even in jsa secret files have mentioned jay could match his velocity to the speed of light,and in who's who in dc universe also mentioned it
https://imgur.com/Ykv6eUI

well if he taps into the speed force then yeah, but that's not how he constantly operates at, back in p52 wasn't his max just under light speed?

can't remember haven't read flash comics in like 7 years

Adam murders him.