Originally posted by Classic NES
A scan of Cable trying to talk QS out of Red Skulls mind control and getting blind sided negates my point how? Cable can only slip into moments between time sometimes, God-like cable should be ale to do it easily. Nate even easier."Faster than thought" is hyperbole unless you mean the speed at which synapses fire to the brain which isn't that fast.
Kid Gladiator has the same powers as Gladiator. The variation is the level of confidence, but even if he's weaker he was still strong enough to break Rulks jaw.
The fact he gets blindsided shows that he can't track speedsters. For example, do you think a sloth could blindside me? Course not. Do you think Penguin could blindside the Flash? Course not.
And WW is FAR faster than QS, apparently.
'Faster than thought' was used only when OP used it in a battlezone. HE obviously thinks that WW is able to speedblitz. I think it's hyperbole (faster than a dream? WTF??) but OP thinks so.
Same powers =/= same level of powers. Beast has superstrength, same as Superman, but...well, you get the point.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The fact he gets blindsided shows that he can't track speedsters. For example, do you think a sloth could blindside me? Course not. Do you think Penguin could blindside the Flash? Course not.And WW is FAR faster than QS, apparently.
'Faster than thought' was used only when OP used it in a battlezone. HE obviously thinks that WW is able to speedblitz. I think it's hyperbole (faster than a dream? WTF??) but OP thinks so.
Same powers =/= same level of powers. Beast has superstrength, same as Superman, but...well, you get the point.
👍. Pietro also speedblitzed Bennet as well. Not boding well for the muties.
How come when people state that characters like gladiator, Hyperion, Supreme and other fast characters could blitz someone or something, it gets thrown under the table? But Any and all DC characters like WW, Superman or the like gets the Royal treatment for blitizing the hell out of characters for the win, even though in comics it does little??
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The fact he gets blindsided shows that he can't track speedsters. For example, do you think a sloth could blindside me? Course not. Do you think Penguin could blindside the Flash? Course not.
Terrible analogy, furthermore he can track speedsters with his eyes but of course, he can't move as fast as them. He can counter their speed with his psi.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Same powers =/= same level of powers. Beast has superstrength, same as Superman, but...well, you get the point. [/B]
It isn't just because he has the same powers, it's because he's also displayed at least class 80 strength. He broke Rulks jaw for example.
Originally posted by Classic NES
Terrible analogy, furthermore he can track speedsters with his eyes but of course, he can't move as fast as them. He can counter their speed with his psi.It isn't just because he has the same powers, it's because he's also displayed at least class 80 strength. He broke Rulks jaw for example.
How is it terrible? If they are in the same ballpark of speed, he should be able to react evenly.
So his eye muscles are faster than his arm muscles? Ok.
His psi? Sure. Hence, her resistance. Enough to get her the win.
Rulk? The same guy Shang Chi sent flying with a kick, Domino thrashed and Wonder Man choked out? He's not at the same levels he was when je first appeared.
Originally posted by JBL
How come when people state that characters like gladiator, Hyperion, Supreme and other fast characters could blitz someone or something, it gets thrown under the table? But Any and all DC characters like WW, Superman or the like gets the Royal treatment for blitizing the hell out of characters for the win, even though in comics it does little??
It depends on who's fighting who.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How is it terrible? If they are in the same ballpark of speed, he should be able to react evenly.
Because you completely ignored that Nate can negate speed by slipping between moments of speedsters perception.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85So his eye muscles are faster than his arm muscles? Ok.
He has a cybernetic/computerized eye.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85His psi? Sure. Hence, her resistance. Enough to get her the win.
She's not resistance to all Psi simply because she's resistant to TP. That's a massive no limits fallacy.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Rulk? The same guy Shang Chi sent flying with a kick, Domino thrashed and Wonder Man choked out? He's not at the same levels he was when je first appeared.
Not the point, at minimum he's class 80 to 100. Kid Gladiator should be around that level PIS not withstanding.
Originally posted by Classic NES
Because you completely ignored that Nate can negate speed by slipping between moments of speedsters perception.He has a cybernetic/computerized eye.
She's not resistance to all Psi simply because she's resistant to TP. That's a massive no limits fallacy.
Not the point, at minimum he's class 80 to 100. Kid Gladiator should be around that level PIS not withstanding.
I haven't ignored it. Guess what Zoom does...and according to OP, a blind WW dealt with him just fine. Where was Cables slipping when QS took him out?
Your proof of Kid Glads was his showing against Rulk. Who isn't at the levels he was when beating Thor etc.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I haven't. Guess what Zoom does...and according to OP, a blind WW dealt with him just fine.Your proof of Kid Glads was his showing against Rulk. Who isn't at the levels he was when beating Thor etc.
You mean when Rulk was beating the Watcher and surfer? So, if he's not at PIS levels he's what class 40? That's some silly logic.
Why don't you post scan of the context? Saying a blind WW can beat Zoom with 0 context tells me nothing.
edit: NVM, found the scan and as always Zoom let his guard down while he was using a speed double. That's a completely different context than cables and Nates use of time slip because they aren't audible nor are they making a double.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im sure. Exodus scourge of the X-Men, dung beneath Magnetos boot is gonna beat the big 3 lol.
Let's go over it then shall we?
Strength: Exodus is at least class 100 since part of his repertoire is invulnerability without his TK shields and standing up to bricks/brick killers such as Rogue with Kid Gladiators powers and Holocaust:
http://i.imgur.com/XTqosC8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wPmzoTQ.jpg
Same Holocaust can knock down Thor and body Post:
http://i.imgur.com/0L50X4c.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EKqjXFv.jpg
Exodus can also absorb life energy and Psi. Hal's Oa power ring is made up of mental energies of the oans. So, if it's close enough to Psi he can absorb it.
