Don't get what the issue is. Thor isn't tanking Doomsday. Wolverine did extremely well against him. Hell, he actually had the advantage in the fight until he ended it:
Wolverine is fast and powerful but he's not Doomsday.
Lowball Doomsday = Maxima, a Mid Herald.
Lowball Thor = Wolverine, a Low Meta.
The difference is...several orders of magnitude, lol.
It just depends how Thor fights. In a strictly physical or even with minor lightning usage he will almost certainly go down given how his stats are lower than Superman's.
Thor still has other ways to win though of course. If he feels like keeping doomsday off of him like he felt like doing against the void, he will chip Doomsday down, and keep dropping void killers on him until he wins.
Originally posted by Damborgson
It just depends how Thor fights. In a strictly physical or even with minor lightning usage he will almost certainly go down given how his stats are lower than Superman's.Thor still has other ways to win though of course. If he feels like keeping doomsday off of him like he felt like doing against the void, he will chip Doomsday down, and keep dropping void killers on him until he wins.
He'd have to drop him in 1. Attempting to use the same attack twice and hoping they'd stack isn't the best tactic to go.
I could see him doing it. But even if he didn't, it was still a double fisted swing that brought DD down. Given the physical abuse he was subjected to before that he should have been immune , but it was just so much more powerful that it didn't matter. Same concept here.
And he's got other attacks if and when he notices lightning is no longer doing the job.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Don't get what the issue is. Thor isn't tanking Doomsday. Wolverine did extremely well against him. Hell, he actually had the advantage in the fight until he ended it:Wolverine is fast and powerful but he's not Doomsday.
Lowball Doomsday = Maxima, a Mid Herald.
Lowball Thor = Wolverine, a Low Meta.The difference is...several orders of magnitude, lol.
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Perfect way to deal with doublestandards.
Thor should take this pretty definitively. The only way to say that DOS DD would have a chance would be to ignore the power creep in DC after the DOS. Characters back then were being portrayed at a lower level in most categories. For instance Supes couldn't hit lightspeed back then(I don't even think Wally could go FTL back then TBH) and that was before Supes started busting out his major Post Crisis strength feats that followed a couple of significant on panel upgrades. Supes outright said the Warrior(Guy) hit harder than DOS DD. Thor entering the fight in the same mindset as Supes at the end means that he's not gong to waste time dicking around, he's going to bust out something like the Godblast or Durok dropper early on.
Now if we scale everyone in the arcs power to the levels they showed in later times then yes, Thor would have his hands full. But the true DOS version of DD doesn't have a chance against Thor at his best.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
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Perfect way to deal with doublestandards.
Can't believe you quoted him but it isn't a perfect way. DOS was based off one storyline, so what happened in that story is usable. Dark picking and choosing from a history of comics doesn't change what I said. Especially with this thread being mainly about Thor's best.
Originally posted by carver9
Can't believe you quoted him but it isn't a perfect way. DOS was based off one storyline, so what happened in that story is usable. Dark picking and choosing from a history of comics doesn't change what I said. Especially with this thread being mainly about Thor's best.
Exactly. It's usable.
Not saying it isn't usable.
But his lows are....still pretty damn high, lol.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Thor should take this pretty definitively. The only way to say that DOS DD would have a chance would be to ignore the power creep in DC after the DOS. Characters back then were being portrayed at a lower level in most categories. For instance Supes couldn't hit lightspeed back then(I don't even think Wally could go FTL back then TBH) and that was before Supes started busting out his major Post Crisis strength feats that followed a couple of significant on panel upgrades. Supes outright said the Warrior(Guy) hit harder than DOS DD. Thor entering the fight in the same mindset as Supes at the end means that he's not gong to waste time dicking around, he's going to bust out something like the Godblast or Durok dropper early on.
Yeah, because the same Doomsday took the blast of a guardian sacrificing himself which vaporized SBP a few years later.
Superman started to show strength feats more and more but it wasn't like he was twice as strong or anything. And even Byrne era Superman was strong enough to move Earth along with Hal as shown later.
Superman also said Icon hit him the hardest ever. What he says and what he does are two different things.
Uh right, are those even as powerful as a Guardian sacrificing himself?
Now if we scale everyone in the arcs power to the levels they showed in later times then yes, Thor would have his hands full. But the true DOS version of DD doesn't have a chance against Thor at his best.
Idiocy at its finest.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, because the same Doomsday took the blast of a guardian sacrificing himself which vaporized SBP a few years later.Superman started to show strength feats more and more but it wasn't like he was twice as strong or anything. And even Byrne era Superman was strong enough to move Earth along with Hal as shown later.
Superman also said Icon hit him the hardest ever. What he says and what he does are two different things.
Uh right, are those even as powerful as a Guardian sacrificing himself?
Idiocy at its finest.
As for Supes/Icon... Hell maybe it was the hardest he'd been hit. Or maybe it was the writer not taking Supes's past fights into consideration. Either way, Supes himself made a direct and specific comparison between the Warrior and DD which makes the statement hold quite a bit of water. I mean people make a big deal out of Booster's offhand statement about DD being faster than Flash or Supes noting that DD was more powerful than Lobo. For that matter, haven't you shown Bullseye saying that Batman hits harder than Daredevil as if it's pretty telling?
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Doese t have anything serious? He has cracked planetoids from his blows in outerspace, cracked celestial armor, hurt Galactus etc. Nothing serious? He has some of the best striking feats in comics.
cracking planetoids is not a serious feat to suggest he will take down doomsday. its a random striking feat even gladiator supressed. and superman also crushed a moon. thor was wearing his gauntler and his beslt when he cracked Exitars armor nice try. he hurt a starving galactus with his godblast. i already addressed the godblast part saying he wont have the time to execute his kamehameha attack before doomsdat stomps his head into the ground. now we can address real string feats in fights where tutinax and hulk outfought thor countless times. thor is not a match for someone like doomsday in a striking war. his energy based attacks wont be useful. doomsday wins.