Originally posted by JBLSemantics. Obviously he hits harder bloodlusted than when holding back his full might.
Z.E.R.O.... 0.... Zero... Zero times more powerful. You think just because superman gets bloodlusted he gets 1 2 3 or 4 times more powerful?? Who told you that??
Let me rephrase the question. How much harder did Superman hit DD in the last few panels to kill him than in the hours of fighting where he couldn't even manage to hurt DD?
Originally posted by JBL
Z.E.R.O.... 0.... Zero... Zero times more powerful. You think just because superman gets bloodlusted he gets 1 2 3 or 4 times more powerful?? Who told you that??
Originally posted by zopzop
Guys I don't think even weakness exploitation will work. Remember, Power Pack dropped an entire building frame composed of iron on him and he yelled in pain but wasn't KOed. Then (later) Energizer combined the powers of BOTH Mjolnir and Stormbreaker to finally put him down.I don't see how Kurse loses.
What has Kurse done to match that level of strength?
Originally posted by abhilegendSo you and h1a8 now write for DC comics? Congrats, hope to read more of your comic's.
The writers?
By punching him out? Superman actually killed Doomsday who was even stronger than him at normal levels when he went all out.What has Kurse done to match that level of strength?
Originally posted by JBL
Z.E.R.O.... 0.... Zero... Zero times more powerful. You think just because superman gets bloodlusted he gets 1 2 3 or 4 times more powerful?? Who told you that??
Carver has.
Originally posted by carver9
'Bizarro may actually be stronger....but because of the way his brain functions...or DOESN'T function...he can't access his power like I could!'
Originally posted by JBL
Actually, this scan proves my point. Lol.
It shows Superman is well versed in the technique of unlocking mental barriers.
As soon as he was in Bizarros body, he used that experience to full use, unlocking Bs potential.
What did I not understand? I hope you....surely....didn't think i was implying something else, did you?
Because misunderstanding other peoples arguments and crowing is....kinda funny.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Still don't get it huh? Superman didn't unlock anything. Bs was too stupid to go full strength, Superman can go full strength because he's not retarded. Neither one of them can get 1 2 3 or 4 times stronger UNLESS they use an outside force. Do you know what you ( among many ) are implying? If superman engaged kurse in hand to hand combat ALONE, no speed and no running ( he going to wish he did) just duking it out with Kurse, your mythical superman is going to drop mental blocks, get atleast 3 times stronger and beat Kurse. Yet this same superman went all out against Thor and BARELY won ( won't ever do it again) yet Kurse beat the hell out of a belt of strength wearing Thor who would have stomped superman.
It shows Superman is well versed in the technique of unlocking mental barriers.As soon as he was in Bizarros body, he used that experience to full use, unlocking Bs potential.
What did I not understand? I hope you....surely....didn't think i was implying something else, did you?
Because misunderstanding other peoples arguments and crowing is....kinda funny.
Originally posted by JBL
Still don't get it huh? Superman didn't unlock anything. Bs was too stupid to go full strength, Superman can go full strength because he's not retarded. Neither one of them can get 1 2 3 or 4 times stronger UNLESS they use an outside force. Do you know what you ( among many ) are implying? If superman engaged kurse in hand to hand combat ALONE, no speed and no running ( he going to wish he did) just duking it out with Kurse, your mythical superman is going to drop mental blocks, get atleast 3 times stronger and beat Kurse. Yet this same superman went all out against Thor and BARELY won ( won't ever do it again) yet Kurse beat the hell out of a belt of strength wearing Thor who would have stomped superman.
When was the Thor incident?
Originally posted by carver9
I think the scan just shows that Superman have a limit. If he didn't, he wouldn't believe that Bizzaro is stronger than him.
Every herald being has a limit. Superman doesn't have infinite strength, otherwise he would disintegrate anything with a punch when not holding back.
Bizzaro limit COULD be higher but he can't access that limit, which is the whole point.
Originally posted by h1a8
Every herald being has a limit. Superman doesn't have infinite strength, otherwise he would disintegrate anything with a punch when not holding back.Bizzaro limit COULD be higher but he can't access that limit, which is the whole point.
Seems like his base is higher as well.
Originally posted by Galan007
Is there are reason to suspect that Superman would be unable to use his massive speed/perception/reaction advantage(s) to BFR Kurse, like he could have done to Doomsday?mmm
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Or he can just throw him in orbit, as he has done to Lobo repeatedly.
People are seriously underestimating Superman's resourcefulness. He's one of the smartest high powered fighters in comics.
kurse wouldn't be able to even hit superman if he didn't allow it. supes would get hit once, realize 'da fuq', then fight smart then as phil and galan have said, simply lob him into space, or into the sun. just because thor and bill stood and fought it out h2h doesn't mean someone smart and in a forum setting would do the same. this really isn't in doubt in any way, unless you assume superman is a moron.
So now we have superman in bfr mode and not being able to be hit. BUT!! The same people vote against Hyperion, Gladiator, Black Adam, Captain Marvel when they are put up against the same or similar opponents. Only superman gets the bfr or not being hit treatment. Yet by FEATS, he gets hit ALL the time by far slower opponents. But when it is necessary to give superman the win, he's taken out of character to meet that objective by his fans. The Royal treatment is stronger than ever before when it comes to superman. JBL points this out. Yet gets called a hater. What I hate is the fact that only superman gets SPECIAL powers, unknown abilities, misconceptions and flat out lies about what he can, have or is going to do. Same class of fans every single day for forever and a day. You cannot for the love of debating debate against a character that has fans in bulk that has THEIR own version of Superman that does not match up to the actual comic superman that disappears when someone attempts to use him in a thread.