Vong War Luke vs ROTS Yoda

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Vong War Luke vs ROTS Yoda

Sabers
Force
All Out

Luke and it isn't close.

Any Luke before TUF loses.

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Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Any Luke before TUF loses.

Luke wins.

Luke. Good fight.

Luke

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Any Luke before TUF loses.

How? Luke is canonically in his prime as of NJO:

This is Luke Skywalker at the height of his powers.

-Jedi Academy Training Manual

Meaning he's superior to his amped DE self who was overpowering DE Palpatine in the Force and defeated the latter in 32 seconds in a lightsaber duel (DE audio drama).

Luke is not losing to Yoda a single round.

Where's the part where he overpowers DE Palpatine in the Force? He got knocked down by Palpatine's Lightning and that was about it.

EDIT: Also, it wasn't really "his powers" that allowed him to defeat Palpatine. Leia and Anakin were helping him.

"The Force so strong... They're both moving so fast I can hardly see them... I-I feel waves of power... the dark side and the light... But... I feel... the light is winning!"

–Leia, Dark Empire Audio Drama

'His' being the important part, in his victory he was empowered by external powers that were not his own.

Yeah, that was Luke winning in the duel. Not him overpowering anything, lol.

Originally posted by AncientPower
'His' being the important part, in his victory he was empowered by external powers that were not his own.

Leia's elemantary BM amp was hardly a factor, lol. As mentioned in the comic, Leia was unlocking Luke's potential. That's his own power he's using to defeat Palpatine.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Yeah, that was Luke winning in the duel. Not him overpowering anything, lol.

I honestly have no idea how one can interpret it in this way.

Originally posted by Azronger
Leia's elemantary BM amp was hardly a factor, lol. As mentioned in the comic, Leia was unlocking Luke's potential. That's his own power he's using to defeat Palpatine.

Elementary*

Leia and fetal Anakin's full meditative power allowed Luke to unlock his full potential, which is FOTJ+ given we have no idea how powerful Luke was before he died and if he ever achieved said potential.

You just defeated your own argument, Amped DE Luke was unleashing FOTJ Luke+ tier powers in their fight. FOTJ Luke >>> NJO Luke for the record.

Luke's untapped power, in conjunction with Leia's and Anakin's power still.

Luke's potential being untapped doesn't rule our Leia and Anakin too pooling their power - the two aren't mutually exclusive - especially given the description of Force Harmony. Furthermore, Luke beat Sidious in a duel, not in a Force contest.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Leia and fetal Anakin's full meditative power allowed Luke to unlock his full potential, which is FOTJ+ given we have no idea how powerful Luke was before he died and if he ever achieved said potential.

Leia performed BM by accident. It was hardly her full meditative power, lmao. And Anakin only stepped in to cut Palpatine off the Force; he wasn't involved in the BM amp.

You just defeated your own argument, Amped DE Luke was unleashing FOTJ Luke+ tier powers in their fight. FOTJ Luke >>> NJO Luke for the record. [/B]

I didn't defeat anything, since the amount of potential that was unlocked isn't even close to his maximum. You pulled that out of your ass. The comic even says Luke's potential was being unlocked even more after he had defeated Palpatine, so how could it be his full potential if more was being unlocked afterwards?

The obvious conclusion is that Luke's full potential wasn't unlocked when he defeated Palpatine, and is supported by the JA training manual stating Luke is even more powerful now.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Luke's untapped power, in conjunction with Leia's and Anakin's power still.

Only Leia's.

Luke's potential being untapped doesn't rule our Leia and Anakin too pooling their power - the two aren't mutually exclusive - especially given the description of Force Harmony. Furthermore, Luke beat Sidious in a duel, not in a Force contest.

Anakin didn't pool his power and Leia's accidental, elementary Battle Meditation wouldn't logically help much.

And I already posted a quote proving Luke was overpowering Palpatine in a Force battle.

Christ Almighty, where's Tempest when you need him?