Jedi Grand Master Yoda VS. Jedi Grand Master Luke

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Jedi Grand Master Yoda VS. Jedi Grand Master Luke

The Jedi Order's all-time great powerhouses face off in the ultimate battle to decide the light side's greatest champion.

Prime Yoda

VS.

FOTJ Luke Skywalker

Location:

Rules:

Morals off.
Oneness isn't applicable.

Rounds:
1.Force.
2.Sabers.
3.All-out.

Luke in all.

The reason I believe this is such a good fight is that Yoda stalemated Darth Sidious over-all despite being two decades away from his natural death.

Luke Skywalker with an amplification by Leia and fetal Anakin defeated Darth Sidious in the Emperor's most powerful incarnation before becoming far more powerful as Jedi Grand Master.

I think Yoda winning is far more plausible than most here want to admit, but nevertheless I'd still side with Luke.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Luke in all.

Reasons? Yoda's two hundred years more powerful than he was in Revenge of the Sith.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Reasons? Yoda's two hundred years more powerful than he was in Revenge of the Sith.
Ranking prime Yoda is damn hard, but Luke is imo just flat-out more impressive.

Not exactly, Yoda was twenty years near death in a lifespan of 900 years, when he stalemated Darth Sidious. In his prime he should be straight up defeating the Emperor, if not taking him solidly.

Luke would take the Emperor as well. Even Yoda by his prime isn't someone I'd put past DE Palpatine, whereas I would do that for Luke.

Yoda in his prime isn't hindered by crippling old age as he is in his duel with Darth Sidious. As much power as Sidious gains after the fact, one can't deny how much more powerful Yoda would also be.

Right, but I don't believe that reversing Yoda's infirmities would have made up for Sidious studying sources of knowledge from over a million worlds, and becoming so powerful that he could literally distort the space-time continuum and was in fact affecting it with his mere presence. Sidious ultimately became more of an energy being than a living being.

From Luke's perspective, yes, but we never actually see anything of the sort in Dark Empire.

It's not Luke's perspective, it's an objective quote from the Endnotes.

Luke wins. Prime Yoda is utter speculation. There's not much proof to suggest he's grown weaker over the centuries.

He's slowed a bit and lessened in telekinetic power (although the whole Muntuur Stones thing doesn't make much sense anyway). Probably not even enough to justify beating RotJ Palpatine, never mind DE.

The difference is honestly going to be minimal, if anything, given he's still the most powerful Jedi in history sans Luke by 19 BBY and the literal avatar of light. And the Muntuur thing is absolute horse-pucky when Yoda has feats that dwarf it.

The point is that Yoda was a little over a decade from his deathbed, he's really, really old. Naturally a younger one isn't inflicted with crippling age and has more power to bring to bear in a fight.

Being more than two decades away from your deathbed doesn't make you weaker, lmao.

Naturally, a younger Yoda wouldn't have to depend on Force augmentation as much, but every Force user depends on it regardless and Yoda's power/connection to the Force would've likely increased over two centuries so he could more than make up for faltering age. If Dooku, Bane, Krayt and many others can do it, then someone considerably more powerful than them can do it as well.

The more power you expend to keep going is less power to make the difference in a fight. In a situation like his Senate Duel, that extra power could have been everything.

Grandmaster Luke

Luke. Luke has more potential than yoda, prime luke would be>prime yoda