Jedi Grand Master Yoda VS. Jedi Grand Master Luke

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Over 20,000! Even Master Yoda doesn't have a midi-chlorian count that high.

—The Phantom Menace

So [Vader's] ability to be twice as good as the Emperor disappeared, and now he's maybe 20 percent less than the Emperor.

—George Lucas

Originally posted by AncientPower
The more power you expend to keep going is less power to make the difference in a fight. In a situation like his Senate Duel, that extra power could have been everything.

Sure, but you'd have to consider the fact that Yoda would've no doubt grown in power over the period of 200 years, which means he has more power to use up.

This isn't to mention the fact that the gap between a Force user's no-amped physical capabilities and augmented physical abilities is usually astronomical that Yoda's younger physique would barely lessen the amount of power he'd have to waste to keep up with Palpatine.

It more than balances out in the end.

Luke all. ROTS Yoda is prime Yoda.

Luke

This so-called prime Yoda is a complete unknown and I see no reason why he should defeat even RotS Palpatine. Luke makes mincemeat out of him.

i mean, given rots's ability to force palp to an explosive stalemate, a more powerful versionof yoda could likely win.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
i mean, given rots's ability to force palp to an explosive stalemate, a more powerful versionof yoda could likely win.

Power isn't the only thing that matters in a fight.

Originally posted by Azronger
Power isn't the only thing that matters in a fight.

Well we know yoda's slower than he was 200 years ago, he wouldn't be hindered by arthirtus which would improve his dueling ability as well

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I think Yoda winning is far more plausible than most here want to admit, but nevertheless I'd still side with Luke.

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Well we know yoda's slower than he was 200 years ago, he wouldn't be hindered by arthirtus which would improve his dueling ability as well

Given that dueling is completely irrelevant if Palpatine goes all-out, I don't see how this matters.

People are assuming that RotS Yoda isn't his prime, and yet despite his physical infirmities his knowledge and mastery over the Force should have been at its peak, and after his encounter with the Priestesses, he fully perfected his spirit.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
People are assuming that RotS Yoda isn't his prime, and yet despite his physical infirmities his knowledge and mastery over the Force should have been at its peak, and after his encounter with the Priestesses, he fully perfected his spirit.

good point on the spirit thing. If we go by this line of logic, you could say cade got a power boost after killing krayt as he acknowledged himself as a jedi or kenobi got a permanent boost from his fight vs anakin as he learned to fully let go.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Well we know yoda's slower than he was 200 years ago, he wouldn't be hindered by arthirtus which would improve his dueling ability as well
Dark Empire Sidious doesn't stand a chance.

Concessions accepted. ggwp

50-50

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Luke in all.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Reasons? Yoda's two hundred years more powerful than he was in Revenge of the Sith.
Is there any evidence that suggests that Yoda grew weaker with age?

Just curious.

We don't know enough about Yoda in his 'prime'.

Luke wins though. He canonically became the most powerful Jedi in galactic history and surpasses DE Sidious.

Luke wins. I don’t know why anyone would try and say otherwise. Luke has been confirmed to have the same potential as anakin which was twice as powerful as the emperor who in his prime is slightly stronger than yoda. Grand master like would be his prime meaning he destroys yoda factually.

Luke stomps him. Prime or not.

The lore does seem to hype Yoda as the most powerful jedi so...

Palpatine became more capable in the ways of the Dark Side by DE but not necessarily in dueling. Palpatine barely make use of lightsabers during the course of OT and later.