Emperor Palpatine runs the "dominating the timeline" gauntlet

Started by Sinious3 pages

I'm gonna legit report Skillz one day for derailing all of my threads.

Originally posted by Azronger
I would be, except I haven't found that much evidence for the gaps between EoTPM and RotS, and RotS and RotJ. I am an advocate of there being a humongous gap between BoTPM and EoTPM, though.

You made fair points, and then there's Luke's own musings about Palpatine's increased power, which do paint a nice picture of him growing quite a bit. But as we have both said, the gap is ultimately unquantifiable aside from being somewhat significant, and we are back at square one.

Yeah, my point is that with these factors considered, the magnitude of his growth in power becomes less unknown and more quantifiable, even though it is still not as coherently displayed as a depiction such as Anakin's growth in saber fights between AOTC and ROTS through his performance in two duels against Dooku. I understand that with your logic, it is harder to defend his ROTJ-DE growth than his growth between TPM and EoTPM, but that doesn't automatically mean that the latter is more significant imo.

As for Force Storms, Palpatine doesn't need to summon fleet or planet busters in single combat, so him not having attained perfect control of those is kind of irrelevant. Miniature Storms will do just fine.
Good point, but I've never seen the storm applied in combat in the first place, and I assumed mastery over the ability would be more helpful with things like using it in combat than simply summoning larger storms, given the fact that it should be much harder to summon and direct a storm against individual targets during combat.
But I guess there's Teleportation, which RotJ Sidious used to have but it was retconned.
Can you pm me where he uses teleportation in DE?
Edit: Oh, nvm. I get what you are referring to.
Not that he needs to teleport anyway, since he's basically immortal and invulnerable anyway 🙂
True 🙂

Originally posted by Sinious
Yeah, my point is that with these factors considered, the magnitude of his growth in power becomes less unknown and more quantifiable, even though it is still not as coherently displayed as a depiction such as Anakin's growth in saber fights between AOTC and ROTS through his performance in two duels against Dooku. I understand that with your logic, it is harder to defend his ROTJ-DE growth than his growth between TPM and EoTPM, but that doesn't automatically mean that the latter is more significant imo.

I think we are in agreement for the most part, although I still think the gap between BoTPM and EoTPM is easily the most significant one.

Good point, but I've never seen the storm applied in combat in the first place, and I assumed mastery over the ability would be more helpful with things like using it in combat than simply summoning larger storms, given the fact that it should be much harder to summon and direct a storm against individual targets during combat.

I mean, it's only logical that if the Emperor can summon massive Storms that can consume fleets in seconds and annihilate planets, then he can obviously summon smaller, human-sized ones too, no? And he doesn't need to direct them. He has said he can summon Force Storms anywhere where the dark side exists, and as the dark side exists everywhere where the Force exists, he can summon Force Storms anywhere where there is Force energy, which would include living beings and the space around them.

Can you pm me where he uses teleportation in DE?
Edit: Oh, nvm. I get what you are referring to.

When he teleported Luke to a prison cell.

True 🙂

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Re: Emperor Palpatine runs the "dominating the timeline" gauntlet

Originally posted by Sinious
I noticed there are no Sidious threads so here it goes.

Palpatine wants to take over the Star Wars timeline and teams of Sith and Jedi from same timelines try to stop him from dictating them like pathetic slaves for the rest of their lives. So, the stakes are high for both sides in every fight.

Can they defeat him or is the Dark Lord too much for them?

He gets full recovery from each battle.

ROTJ Palpatine. If he dies, he comes back as his DE incarnation in a young clone body, and runs that round again. He will then continue to fight the rest of the gauntlet with his DE version.

Legends only.

R1: Palpatine vs Exar Kun, Ulic Qel-droma & Vodo-Siosk Baas

R2: Palpatine vs Darth Nihilus, Darth Revan & Darth Malak

R3: Palpatine vs Novel Vitiate, Darth Nyriss, Lord Scourge & Meetra Surik

R4: Palpatine vs SoR Revan, The Outlander, Darth Malgus & Darth Marr

R5: Palpatine vs Darth Plagueis, Darth Bane & Darth Zannah

R6: Palpatine vs Yoda & Count Dooku

R7: Palpatine vs DE Luke, Darth Caedus & Jaina Solo

Boss: Valkorion, Arcann & Vaylin

RotJ might fall at 6 - if he does, DE probably gets past 7, and curbstomps boss.

Still clears lol

He needs to kill Vodo very quickly to not lose round 1. He hard stops at 2. DE has a very tough struggle with 3 and could lose many rounds, he hard stops at 4.

Originally posted by AncientPower
He needs to kill Vodo very quickly to not lose round 1. He hard stops at 2. DE has a very tough struggle with 3 and could lose many rounds, he hard stops at 4.

I thought you believed that Exar Kun>/=DE Palpatine?

Kek. No.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Kek. No.

Isn't this you?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/exar-kun-is-the-strongest-sith-lord-yes-hed-beat-p-1763597/

Clears 😛

I'm pretty sure that's Nai.

All Sids fall at 4 🙂

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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
All Sids fall at 4 🙂

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Spoiler:
And lol at 5 being above 4.

Plagueis is powerful enough for that to make sense.

He's the most powerful likely, yes, but Revan and The Outlander can, at minimum, stalemate him while Malgus and Marr defeats Bane and Zannah.

Dies at three.

Originally posted by AncientPower
I'm pretty sure that's Nai.

That's not Nai. They already said people mistook them for Nai.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
He's the most powerful likely, yes, but Revan and The Outlander can, at minimum, stalemate him
Do you place Plagueis below Valk?

Also, lol @ "likely"

while Malgus and Marr defeats Bane and Zannah.
Thread idea.

Originally posted by Sinious
Do you place Plagueis below Valk?

Also, lol @ "likely"

Yes, I do. And The Outlander wank is real. 🙂

In all honesty - Palpatine loses at Exar Kun's team. The only way he could pass by all is whether or not he has access to his Force storms. If he does - it's an insta-win for Palpatine.