Well, actually, I agreed with you quite a bit. Sidious definitely had a grander everything than Valkorion — except his rise to power, but obviously Sidious had to conduct that under the veil of secrecy.
Not sure what Ant means by Valkorion being "invincible but not invulnerable". Valkorion was definitely not invincible. His plans were repeatedly set back in ways that left him physically damaged — which Palpatine never suffered except in RotJ and DE, and his plans were set back much more often in general. Certainly Palpatine never suffered anything as humiliating as Sel-Makor overcoming Vitiate's control of his own body, which wasn't even PIS, really.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Bioware should have left revan alone imo, or give him a proper final fight vs vitiate. Overturning his redemption was dumb imo.
This.
The ending of SoR, if you could even call it a redemption, is just pale and limp and shit. I would've been fine with the novel ending his life against Vitiate. That would've tied up the loose end. Bringing him back in TOR for nothing more than cash grabs is pretty pathetic, IMO.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Exposure does nothing to raise or lower Valk/Sids. If all evidence shown in Valk's illustrious career isn't above the evidence we've seen of Sidious' illustrious career, logically Sidious is superior. As of Revan and even SWTOR people were perfectly logical in believing that Vitiate was sub-Plagueis/ROTS Sidious. Because there wasn't enough evidence at the time to point to Vitiate being inarguably superior till Ziost/KOTFE. However, Valk's start to finish is inferior to Sidious' based on the evidence that we have, IMO. At their absolute peaks we saw them both operate at, Sidious was more impressive from a combative, cosmological, and manipulative standpoint.Like I said in another thread, though, I think a lot of that can be attributed to Valkorion being poorly written. Like, he goes from Sidious-level mastermind to getting ****ed by the Outlander and a holocron he made when he was 10 in an instant. Switched from nuanced to cookie-cutter so quickly.
A battered Darth Vader managed to lift Palpatine from behind and threw him into a shaft and that was the end of the Emperor. If we consider Dark Empire legends content then a smuggler downed a clone of Palpatine and an ordinary Jedi was enough to take care of his essence while it proceeded to possess a child.
Fans of Palpatine also tend to overlook the fact that Palpatine was a toothless tiger without access to a corporeal vessel. Valkorion, in a similar situation, turned a Sith stronghold world into a battlefield and feeding ground and devastated it after restoring his strength to send a statement to those who sought to oppose him.
It all comes down to perception of these matters, my friend. No matter how impressive Valkorion may come across at times, some people will fail to perceive such instances as validations of Valkorion's hype and evidence of superiority over Palpatine in similar context.
I can also point out a number of other areas where Valkorion outgunned Palpatine but you (and a few others) just fail to see it that way.
By the way, Valkorion's demise was far from easy and entirely a product of circumstances. I would say that the Outlander and his allies got lucky. Valkorion did not realize his vulnerability within Outlander's mind and the role his own creation would play in his demise at the hands of his opponents. It was virtually impossible to stop him otherwise as apparent from earlier developments and efforts.
Take a look at these streams of energy:
Force lightning doesn't looks like that even in SWTOR.
Those streams of energy incorporate Force lightning in them but they are something more. They are not identified as Force lightning even in the coding of those sequences.
The stream of energy that struck Darth Marr dissipated in an entirely different manner while a burst of Force lightning ends swiftly. Here is a glimpse:
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Take a look at these streams of energy:Force lightning doesn't looks like that even in SWTOR.
Those streams of energy incorporate Force lightning in them but they are something more. They are not identified as Force lightning even in the coding of those sequences.
The stream of energy that struck Darth Marr dissipated in an entirely different manner while a burst of Force lightning ends swiftly. Here is a glimpse:
mmm
Looks like Force lighting to me. 👆
Originally posted by The_Tempest
So did anyone other than AP & Leg read Hood's responses as confirmation that Valkorion was employing a Dark Empire style Force storm?
Doubt it. I have a wonder tho, are they just performing the biggest reaching in the history of mankind or are they just that f-ucking retarded?