Azog the Defiler vs. Gregor Clegane the Mountain

Started by quanchi1128 pages

Originally posted by Rebel95
Yeah the spikes went through, but it literally didn't do shit. It stopped the force of the blow. And then the mountain ripped the guys head off lol
The guy was not even a warrior. He was some zealot so this doesn't bode well going up against the greatest Lotr Orc with superior strength and superior skill.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Yeah the spikes went through, but it literally didn't do shit. It stopped the force of the blow. And then the mountain ripped the guys head off lol

Still the spikes whent throught!

Have spikes penetrate your chest and tell me if you won't cry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The guy was not even a warrior. He was some zealot so this doesn't bode well going up against the greatest Lotr Orc with superior strength and superior skill.

He still penetrated his chest! Doesn't matter. Spikes are spikes. They went through Gregor's Chest and he didn't even wail!

Have Azog's head replaced and Gregor would pull it out nevertheless!

Zombi Gregor stomps Azog.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Still the spikes whent throught!

Have spikes penetrate your chest and tell me if you won't cry.

He still penetrated his chest! Doesn't matter. Spikes are spikes. They went through Gregor's Chest and he didn't even wail!

Have Azog's head replaced and Gregor would pull it out nevertheless!

Zombi Gregor stomps Azog.

A regular guy without super skill or super strength does so it makes sense someone with both easily breaches and kills Gregor. They didn't connect with his flesh.

Gregor gets raped. He's too slow to even react before his death. The guy gets killed pretty quickly. He just walks around like a super slow zombie and gets crushed. Azog beheads him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A regular guy without super skill or super strength does so it makes sense someone with both easily breaches and kills Gregor. They didn't connect with his flesh.

Gregor gets raped. He's too slow to even react before his death. The guy gets killed pretty quickly. He just walks around like a super slow zombie and gets crushed. Azog beheads him.

Lol you saw the size of those spikes!? Please dont come with unreasonable comments.

Azog isnt superfast neither! Not fast enough to make it significant.

Azog loses, he is too weak.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Still the spikes whent throught!

Have spikes penetrate your chest and tell me if you won't cry.


That wasn't my point. My point was that the armor helps

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol you saw the size of those spikes!? Please dont come with unreasonable comments.

Azog isnt superfast neither! Not fast enough to make it significant.

Azog loses, he is too weak.

Do you disagree with the comment the guy who did so had no super strength or super skill wielding that weapon ?

He's faster than Gregor. Gregor also doesn't try to dodge or do much of anything in defense.

Azog is far greater than the Gregor and has every single advantage. Gregor hasn't beaten anyone expectional since he's an ugly grotesque zombie cuck.

Don't ignore my post, Rebel.

Originally posted by Rebel95
That wasn't my point. My point was that the armor helps

It helps, but the spikes still went through!

They had to penentrate his skin. Obviously.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you disagree with the comment the guy who did so had no super strength or super skill wielding that weapon ?

He's faster than Gregor. Gregor also doesn't try to dodge or do much of anything in defense.

Azog is far greater than the Gregor and has every single advantage. Gregor hasn't beaten anyone expectional since he's an ugly grotesque zombie cuck.

I agree, yet he had enough strenght to penetrate his armor with those sharp spikes. Yet Gregor didn't even make a sound! Do you disagree with those Spikes hurting Gregor's skin?

Azog doesn't try to dodge neither. He isn't fast enough to make it relevant Quanchi. He aint a dodger nor superfast with the mace. Gregor can still defend himself with his sword.

Not in height nor strenght nor resistance. The only thing Azog has is speed, but still not enought to change something. Azog lost to disadvantaged opponents! The Dwarves were at a disadvantage!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I agree, yet he had enough strenght to penetrate his armor with those sharp spikes. Yet Gregor didn't even make a sound! Do you disagree with those Spikes hurting Gregor's skin?

Azog doesn't try to dodge neither. He isn't fast enough to make it relevant Quanchi. He aint a dodger nor superfast with the mace. Gregor can still defend himself with his sword.

Not in height nor strenght nor resistance. The only thing Azog has is speed, but still not enought to change something. Azog lost to disadvantaged opponents! The Dwarves were at a disadvantage!

There's no proof that went deep inside his chest at all. Azog was cut multiple times by Thorin yet he didn't show any damage either. Nothing impressive especially considering the guy is just some fanatic.

He is fast enough to parry and evade attacks. Thorin tries the whole time to kill him. Azog shows vastly superior skill in close quarters than Gregor who is a slow moving zombie relying on his brute strength against normal men.

Azog has greater skill, speed, and strength. No, you claiming they were at a disadvantage also applies to Oberyn who is far shorter. Difference is Oberyn dominates him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There's no proof that went deep inside his chest at all. Azog was cut multiple times by Thorin yet he didn't show any damage either. Nothing impressive especially considering the guy is just some fanatic.

He is fast enough to parry and evade attacks. Thorin tries the whole time to kill him. Azog shows vastly superior skill in close quarters than Gregor who is a slow moving zombie relying on his brute strength against normal men.

Azog has greater skill, speed, and strength. No, you claiming they were at a disadvantage also applies to Oberyn who is far shorter. Difference is Oberyn dominates him.

Lol it doesn't need evidence to be evident that it went through Quanchi. Use your logic.

Gregor wins, not repeating myself man.

Zombi gregor is too strong for Azog. Azog has shown no signs of strenght himself besides lifting a rock which anyone could do.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol it doesn't need evidence to be evident that it went through Quanchi. Use your logic.

Gregor wins, not repeating myself man.

Zombi gregor is too strong for Azog. Azog has shown no signs of strenght himself besides lifting a rock which anyone could do.

How far through ? Are you suggesting a superficial graze or a deep wound.

He loses based off the advantages I've gone into. Nah, he's too strong for Oberyn or the regular small men of Westeros. The pale Orc would overpower and bury him. Gregor is weak compared to him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How far through ? Are you suggesting a superficial graze or a deep wound.

He loses based off the advantages I've gone into. Nah, he's too strong for Oberyn or the regular small men of Westeros. The pale Orc would overpower and bury him. Gregor is weak compared to him.

It went in. Not enough to kill him but enough to do something.

Again hit yourself with spikes in the chest and tell me if that won't hurt! (Don't kill yourself though).

There is no evidence to suggest that Orcs stronger than man. Atleast not on screen. Normal Humans in LoTR have been seen to go against Orcs without an issue.

Azog hasn't show stronger feats than Gregor, as simple as that. Azog hasn't taken a spears and be fine about it.

Gregor is stronger and more durable than Azog. What does Azog has? Again speed won't be enough for him, he aint fast enough to dodge.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
It went in. Not enough to kill him but enough to do something.

Again hit yourself with spikes in the chest and tell me if that won't hurt! (Don't kill yourself though).

There is no evidence to suggest that Orcs stronger than man. Atleast not on screen. Normal Humans in LoTR have been seen to go against Orcs without an issue.

Azog hasn't show stronger feats than Gregor, as simple as that. Azog hasn't taken a spears and be fine about it.

Gregor is stronger and more durable than Azog. What does Azog has? Again speed won't be enough for him, he aint fast enough to dodge.

How far in is the question. Why don't you answer me ?

I am not saying it wouldn't hurt I am saying with the present company this isn't impressive or exclusive to Gregor.

That has to do with formidability not strength. We have seen how strong Azog is in comparison. He isn't an average Orc he's the greatest one.

I've listed the feats but you ignore them. Neither did Gregor. He had to play possum to lure a much smaller man who humiliatesd him in one on one combat.

Based off what ? Gregor hasn't shown himself stronger than Sandor in combat. This is a combat situation. He's fast enough to dodge while Gregor isn't. Gregor will stand there like a dope and let Azog attack him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Don't ignore my post, Rebel.

Or what? What are you gonna do about it

Originally posted by Rebel95
Or what? What are you gonna do about it
Seems you conceded the argument. If you want to be gutless that's your right.

There was no argument lol I was just saying that his armor helped him, do you disagree?

Originally posted by Rebel95
It also depends if the Mountain gets his kingsguard armor.. If he does I think he would win
This is the post you ignored. You believe with a certain armor Gregor wins. Do you admit Azog wins now.

Originally posted by Rebel95
There was no argument lol I was just saying that his armor helped him, do you disagree?
I quoted the post you ignored. Chop, chop.

I don't really have time to start a debate with you right now but yes I think if the Mountain has his armor he would win.