Lol.
Hett was contesting Kenobi very well until Kenobi got a moment of realisation that Luke would be compromised should he lose. We know as a matter of fact that Darth Krayt perfected his lightsaber skills against a thousand opponents over the century after that and obviously gained massively in power, meaning his augmentative abilities would skyrocket too.
Karness Muur was stalemating Darth Krayt in a duel despite being five millennia out of practice.
Wrath > Muur is a bit of a foregone conclusion.
Originally posted by AncientPower
It's based on the Wrath clearly being a far better duelist by feats and accolades and the fact his powers should be on par with Styrak's, whose powers and mastery of alchemy were incomparable.
The Wrath has no dueling feats surpassing Muur being evenly matched with Krayt. More importantly, Obi-Wan's feats are better than the Wrath's, so we're getting kind of circular here. And what accolades put him far above Muur?
Should be on par with Styrak's based on what? You're basically saying his powers rival all of the Dread Masters, as I'm sure you know.
Except Muur isn't even supposedly the best duelist of the Exiles and we know Tulak Hord was the greatest duelist of the Ancient Sith overall per Kreia's accurate estimations.
The Wrath becomes singularly legendary among the Empire for his lightsaber ability and mastery of the dark side, lightsaber ability which should naturally surpass Nox's. Nox had inherited Hord's power and apparently his lightsaber skill, given Nox's lightsaber skills were stated to be as formidable as her Force powers, just as Hord's powers were as considerable as his own lightsaber skill.
It's convoluted, I freely admit that, but such is navigating TOR era content.
As far as the DMs are concerned, they themselves state that the Wrath would become their Scion of Terror and that he is worthy of joining their union.
1. Just... what? Nox inheriting Hord's power isn't literal and it doesn't make him or her equally skilled as Hord just because "they're as formidable with their blade as with their Force powers", lmfao. Not to mention that Hord doesn't have that accolade to begin with. You made a completely arbitrary judgement on how Hord's power and skill compared to each other and then decided to use that to prove that Nox rivalled Hord. lmfao
2. Sounds like they're referring to him serving them or some such. In no way does that make him as powerful as them. What a huge leap of logic, lol. What happened to all the arguments about the DM's "dominating" the protagonists and what not?
Khem Val states it directly after musing her power. So he's clearly referring to power and knowledge in a literal sense. Why wouldn't it? The indication is clear that Nox wasn't just a powerhouse in the Force but just as formidable in a duel. Hord's powers if anything are the primary aspect of his character, he's a sorcerer more than he ever was a warrior. This is recurring theme with the Ancient Sith.
Not at all, they are stating the Wrath will become a part of their union, not just some puppet. When Styrak died they needed a sixth to balance their powers, but it took the right Sith. They chose the Wrath because of his domination in combat and the horror he thus inspires, Nox gets something completely different.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Khem Val states it directly after musing her power. So he's clearly referring to power and knowledge in a literal sense. Why wouldn't it? The indication is clear that Nox wasn't just a powerhouse in the Force but just as formidable in a duel. Hord's powers if anything are the primary aspect of his character, he's a sorcerer more than he ever was a warrior. This is recurring theme with the Ancient Sith.
Can I have Khem's quote?
Hord is renowned for his skills as a warrior moreso than as a Sorcerer. Certainly when Kreia was giving a brief overview of Hord, she skipped his powers of Sorcery completely and went straight to talking about his dueling skills. Not saying he's anything but a proficient Sorcerer; it's just that his dueling skills are first and foremost. The premier aspect of his holocron, as I recall, were his lightsaber teachings. And even if you did make the judgement that Hord's powers > his lightsaber skills, that's a purely arbitrary thing and you can't use that to say Nox is now Hord's equal in sabers. By god, that's a horrific stretch. I'm not sure my elastic band could manage it.
Not at all, they are stating the Wrath will become a part of their union, not just some puppet. When Styrak died they needed a sixth to balance their powers, but it took the right Sith. They chose the Wrath because of his domination in combat and the horror he thus inspires, Nox gets something completely different.
Again, that doesn't mean the Wrath is exactly equal to Styrak, but it's not even necessary to debate the point. The Wrath being as powerful as Styrak on his own isn't even remotely impressive.