Emperors Wrath II vs Obi-Wan Kenobi [Lightsabers only]

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Obi wan

Originally posted by Ursumeles
TPM Yoda >/= TPM Dooku ~ RotS Obi-Wan >>> HoT > Wrath. [/B]
Originally posted by SunRazer
Can I have Khem's quote?
“Sith, you are more powerful than I had judged. Perhaps, a worthy successor to Tulak Hord.”
- Khem Val, Act II
“You are the heir of Tulak Hord. Your strength is great. I will guard your legacy forever.”
- Khem Val, Act III Ending[/I]

Previously Val considered Kallig to be nothing next to Hord, but Val changesvhis mind gradually as Kallig obtains the power of the Sith Spirits. His nature as a Dashade should also given him a strong measure of the power of these Sith.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Hord is renowned for his skills as a warrior moreso than as a Sorcerer. Certainly when Kreia was giving a brief overview of Hord, she skipped his powers of Sorcery completely and went straight to talking about his dueling skills. Not saying he's anything but a proficient Sorcerer; it's just that his dueling skills are first and foremost. The premier aspect of his holocron, as I recall, were his lightsaber teachings.

Um, not really:

In his time as Dark Lord of the Sith, Tulak Hord was known as a master of the mystical dark arts of the Force, using his powers to plumb the depths of life and death.
- The Ritual of Tulak Hord Codex Entry[I]
[i]Originally posted by SunRazer
And even if you did make the judgement that Hord's powers > his lightsaber skills, that's a purely arbitrary thing and you can't use that to say Nox is now Hord's equal in sabers. By god, that's a horrific stretch. I'm not sure my elastic band could manage it.

That's not the logic at all. His knowledge of Sith Sorcery and power, was legendary, even more formidable than his lightsaber skills. But that's only one stick in the firewood pile. If Nox has the power of Tulak Hord then her augmentative power should be up there too, one can presume augmentation was a primary factor in his legendary lightsaber prowess which was the greatest amongst them all.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Again, that doesn't mean the Wrath is exactly equal to Styrak, but it's not even necessary to debate the point. The Wrath being as powerful as Styrak on his own isn't even remotely impressive.

Styrak is the incomparable alchemist. You also need to realise that even though the DMs power is combined, they became that powerful and immortal due to his alchemical prowess. If the Wrath is strong enough to join them in Styrak's place, then things are pretty simple.

1. Worthy of being a heir isn't the same as being equally powerful. Certainly not enough to make a concrete claim like them being dead equals in power.

2. Hord being known for Sorcery doesn't mean he was more known for that than dueling.

3. Augmentation was not the primary factor, since Hord is specifically renowned for his skill as a swordsman.

4. Alchemy is hardly a product of power alone. Most of its applications are ritualistic in nature. Again, Styrak on his lonesome hasn't shown anything to impress.

I'd go Kenobi in a nail-biter.