Darth Vader vs. the Hulk

Started by carver914 pages

What is the most durable thing it has cut though. Cutting metal doors doesn't mean it is going to cut Thor, Hulk, or Superman skin.

No version of Hulk is losing vs Vader, period. Hulk stomps.

Can Hulk really no-sell lightsaber-level stabs with regularity? I am far from a Hulk scholar, but numerous showings of his I have in my mind involve cuts, stabs and other damage. Usually shrugged off with healing factor, granted, but that's different than no-selling.

Originally posted by leonidas
that pic. in some distant, distant future, you really should have that on your tombstone.... that would be awesome.... 👆

Lol. 👆 Something to think about. I mean, I'm 32. I'll be dead at some point in the next 2-50 years. Gotta start planning ahead...

Originally posted by Digi
Can Hulk really no-sell lightsaber-level stabs with regularity? I am far from a Hulk scholar, but numerous showings of his I have in my mind involve cuts, stabs and other damage. Usually shrugged off with healing factor, granted, but that's different than no-selling.

Unless I'm mistaken lightsabers rely on energy/heat to deal damage. Hulk's energy resistance is top notch.

Hulk was decapitated before. Yes, by Caps's shield, but that does not make any difference.

Originally posted by carver9
What is the most durable thing it has cut though. Cutting metal doors doesn't mean [...]
Lol. Does it really matter what anyone says? Clearly your opinion that Hulk can no-sell saber-strikes isn't going to change.

g007-psyduck

Originally posted by zopzop
Unless I'm mistaken lightsabers rely on energy/heat to deal damage. Hulk's energy resistance is top notch.
Plasma

Originally posted by Digi
Lol. But this is a little different than a What-If, because Legends was in fact canon for decades, and has only been deemed otherwise since the new movies. For purposes of battles like this, it's still in a weird transition. The DCnU comparison is a fair one, but imagine when it was only a year in. Most DC vs. threads were pre-DCnU characters, even when the OP didn't specifically stipulate. SW is in that same weird state right now.

So sure, remove Legends and it's a very different conversation. Same with any SW character. But it's worth making the distinction exactly because the difference is so great between the two.

Always happy to help.

fdog

I got what Galan was trying to say Digi. I was just being facetious. Legends canonicity isn't set in stone as I've read a recent interview where certain aspects were going to be used in the future. They powers that be just didn't want to bog down writers.

But even with it. I feel Hulk isn't getting the respect he deserves. The guy is borderline trans on strength alone and people are suggesting he's getting force choked is laughable/trolling.

Originally posted by Galan007
Lightsaber blades are weightless, so the force/momentum behind a strike does not contribute to its ability to cut/pierce *as* much as standard melee weaponry. The heat-element of the saber is what generates the bulk of the damage... That's why Qui-Gon, for example, was able to plunge his saber through very thick blast doors with almost no effort:

That said, the power behind a saber-strike certainly does contribute to its effectiveness to some degree -- I am certainly not trying to imply otherwise. It is just not as profound a difference as we see in, say, a conventional sword.

I feel like you're applying a nlf to sabers with this argument

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I feel like you're applying a nlf to sabers with this argument
Then you clearly didn't comprehend what I said.

Originally posted by Galan007
Then you clearly didn't comprehend what I said.

Maybe, ...in any event that's what I got.

Again, lightsaber blades are weightless, so the force/momentum behind a saber-strike does not contribute to its ability to cut/pierce *as* much as standard melee weaponry.

That is all I was saying in a nutshell. Not sure how you managed to gather a no-limits fallacy from that, but whatevs...

Hulk can still be choked out.

Force surge to keep him airborne and then a choke to kill the oxygen going to his brain?

Yeah but I mean....hulk stomping the ground with any significant force should send Vader flying. I'm sure his force ability is more than enough to keep him protected from shockwaves and debris to a point, but he's not so durable as to want to risk any sort of melee from the hulk.

He can go Manchester Black on him and start giving him multiple strokes though, I assume.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Hulk can still be choked out.

Force surge to keep him airborne and then a choke to kill the oxygen going to his brain?

*insert snake scan

Originally posted by Damborgson
Yeah but I mean....hulk stomping the ground with any significant force should send Vader flying. I'm sure his force ability is more than enough to keep him protected from shockwaves and debris to a point, but he's not so durable as to want to risk any sort of melee from the hulk.

He can go Manchester Black on him and start giving him multiple strokes though, I assume.

Send Vader flying? he can fly

This is getting dumb. Vader tk isn't doing anything to Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
This is getting dumb. Vader tk isn't doing anything to Hulk.
Vader bfrs him to the sun

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Vader bfrs him to the sun

Vader isn't lifting him. Again, Hulk has powered through TK powerful enough to hurl planets.

Since when can somebody stop themself from being lifted by tk? Unless they have flight.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Since when can somebody stop themself from being lifted by tk? Unless they have flight.

You know we are talking about comic book characters, right?