How strong is novel Vitiate without the Dromund Kaas nexus?

Is he still Revan+ or sub-Revan? Discuss.

Apparently, sub-Exar Kun.

He's sub-Exar even with the nexus.

Stronger than any Sith in history.

Nexus or not, gains from Nathema ritual are in the picture.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Stronger than any Sith in history.

Nexus or not, gains from Nathema ritual are in the picture.

Care to attempt to quantify the increase from the ritual?

A nexus only strengthened Vitiate's influence over his subjects.

Before the Emperor’s apparent demise, the Empire’s greatest non-Force-sensitive combatants were selected for the Imperial Guard to serve and defend the Emperor himself. But being selected and developing into a guardsman were two different matters entirely. The Emperor chose worlds strong in the dark side for his academies–locations where his influence was strongest, where he could form a bond with his would-be guardsmen. In these academies, the candidates would undergo a relentless, merciless training regimen that included regularly scheduled battles to the death. Regardless of what kind of person entered an Imperial Guard academy, if they survived they would emerge as a honed-to-perfection killing machine molded to the Emperor’s will.

Your own quote says Vitiate's influence is stronger on dark side nexi 😂

Nice way to debunk yourself, lol.

"The Emperor chose worlds strong in the dark side for his academies–locations where his influence was strongest, where he could form a bond with his would-be guardsmen."

Nice. 👆

Temp, thoughts on Vitiate's strength outside nexi?

Originally posted by Azronger
Temp, thoughts on Vitiate's strength outside nexi?

I think if Novel!Revan and Novel!Vitiate had been fighting on "neutral" ground, Revan would have stood a healthy chance of beating him outright, if not by equal or greater power then by superior skill.

I'd say I agree.

Sub-Dooku 🙂

Originally posted by Azronger
Your own quote says Vitiate's influence is stronger on dark side nexi 😂

Nice way to debunk yourself, lol.

Revelation is that Vitiate's influence over his subjects (i.e. Imperial Guard) is strongest in a location that is strong in the Dark Side. That is why he chose such locations as training grounds for Imperial Guard. This influence refers to strength of bonding between Vitiate and Imperial Guard. Darth Nyriss remarked that Imperial Guard won't betray Vitiate on Dromund Kaas for example.

Originally posted by Azronger
Care to attempt to quantify the increase from the ritual?

Blatantly stronger than Revan or Kun.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Revelation is that Vitiate's influence over his subjects (i.e. Imperial Guard) is strongest in a location that is strong in the Dark Side.

Yes, his influence is strongest in such locations because he's amped, lmao.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Blatantly stronger than Revan or Kun.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Blatantly stronger than Revan or Kun.

?

A bit below Revan.

So much for AP's argument that he is the DK nexus.

Kun was amped on Yavin 4 too, though.

Sure; not on Ossus. But Abeloth and the Pool of Knowledge were darker.