How strong is novel Vitiate without the Dromund Kaas nexus?

Started by Geistalt2 pages
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
EVURY1 FROM TOR ERA IS SHIT except 4 Valkorion.

Here's the thing - Kun's quote, even if taken to apply to Vitiate, would not account for the nexus. So on the nexus, Vitiate could still be more powerful. 👆

Originally posted by SunRazer
Here's the thing - Kun's quote, even if taken to apply to Vitiate, would not account for the nexus. So on the nexus, Vitiate could still be more powerful. 👆

Vitiate spends most of his time on Dromund Kaas, so I'd wager Kun's quote applies to him.

Originally posted by Azronger
I'd wager

lmfao

Originally posted by Azronger
Vitiate spends most of his time on Dromund Kaas, so I'd wager Kun's quote applies to him.

No, quotes never apply over circumstantial factors such as a nexus.

Originally posted by SunRazer
No, quotes never apply over circumstantial factors such as a nexus.

If Kun is stated to be the darkest power in the galaxy, then that would include nexus-amped beings as well, so long as they reside in the galaxy.

No, because the nexus and the character are different powers. So Kun's quote cannot apply to both, only one.

Originally posted by SunRazer
No, because the nexus and the character are different powers. So Kun's quote cannot apply to both, only one.

Yes, but the character amped by the nexus is a singular entity, so it applies 👆

But they're different powers, which is the point in question. Kun may be a greater power than Vitiate alone, but Vitiate on the nexus is a different story. Such a quote can only refer to a single source of power, not multiple.

Originally posted by SunRazer
But they're different [b]powers, which is the point in question. Kun may be a greater power than Vitiate alone, but Vitiate on the nexus is a different story. Such a quote can only refer to a single source of power, not multiple. [/B]

Eh, I guess that's a fair interpretation, although I'd personally treat Vitiate as a singular being whether his power is amplified or not.

It's not confirmed that Vitiate is more powerful than Kun on the nexus, but the possibility for argument is definitely there.

By SWTOR, he's factually more powerful than Kun off-nexus, though.

This might be relevant here:

Finally, the Mandalorians had been routed. The Jedi generals Revan and Malak had killed Mandalore and hounded the remnants of the enemy fleet far beyond the boundaries of Republic space–and in so doing, performed terrible deeds and learned dark powers. But there were darker days to come. During Revan’s pursuit of the Mandalorians, he and Malak discovered the ancient Sith Empire hidden on Dromund Kaas. Realizing this Empire was the true threat to the Republic, Revan and Malak faced the Sith Emperor himself, intending to cut off the serpent’s head–but the Emperor was too powerful. Overwhelmed by the Emperor’s dark presence, they pledged themselves to his service. The Sith Emperor anointed Revan and Malak as true Sith Lords and sent them to seek out the Star Forge, an ancient alien space station capable of producing powerful starships and droids. Never revealing the existence of the Emperor, Revan and Malak then returned to the armies that had followed them against the Mandalorians, armed their loyal servants with the Star Forge’s weapons, and marched to war against the Republic.

From SWTOR codex entry - The Fall of Revan and Malak.

That doesn't contradict anything given here.

lmfao

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Before the Emperor’s apparent demise, the Empire’s greatest non-Force-sensitive combatants were selected for the Imperial Guard to serve and defend the Emperor himself. But being selected and developing into a guardsman were two different matters entirely. The Emperor chose worlds strong in the dark side for his academies–locations where his influence was strongest, where he could form a bond with his would-be guardsmen. In these academies, the candidates would undergo a relentless, merciless training regimen that included regularly scheduled battles to the death. Regardless of what kind of person entered an Imperial Guard academy, if they survived they would emerge as a honed-to-perfection killing machine molded to the Emperor’s will.

Where is this from, LeG? I would appreciate a source 🙂

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Sub-Dooku 🙂

👆

Originally posted by Azronger
Where is this from, LeG? I would appreciate a source 🙂

I found it: it's from the Imperial Guard Academy codex entry. Vitiate sucks even more than I thought 🙂

Originally posted by Geistalt
So much for AP's argument that he is the DK nexus.

Kun was amped on Yavin 4 too, though.

Sure; not on Ossus. But Abeloth and the Pool of Knowledge were darker.

Everyone on a dark side nexus. 🙂

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I think if Novel!Revan and Novel!Vitiate had been fighting on "neutral" ground, Revan would have stood a healthy chance of beating him outright, if not by equal or greater power then by superior skill.

Could you elaborate?