East Africa Famine Crisis

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/world/africa/united-nations-famine-somalia.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39272811

"MOGADISHU, Somalia — The secretary general of the United Nations, António Guterres, arrived in Somalia on Tuesday and appealed for $825 million in aid to address drought and cholera in the East Africa nation on the brink of famine.

Mr. Guterres said the money was needed to help 5.5 million people, about half of Somalia’s population, survive the next six months." - Nytimes

"Last month, a famine was declared in parts of South Sudan, the first to be announced in any part of the world in six years.

The government and the United Nations reported that some 100,000 people are facing starvation, with a million more on the brink of famine.

A combination of civil war and an economic collapse have been blamed.

In Kenya, the country's president Uhuru Kenyatta declared its drought a national disaster and Kenya's Red Cross says 2.7 million people face starvation.

There is also a severe drought in Somalia and Ethiopia." - BBC

Spread awareness please. If you can, consider donating to a charity that can bring aid to this crisis.

Allah Uackbar

For god sake! Stop producing when you don't have FOOD! We should send condoms instead of money. We keep enabling these people to reproduce and starve it out every year. smh

Yeah. They better stay poor but with even less population!

America, various European counties, Russia, China and even India to a much lesser extent all interfere to keep various African countries destabilized in order to more easily reap the continent's vast resources, then retards complain about African's needing to just stop having children as the fix. Good show.

Yeah. Look at the usual Leftist Lie Machine go to work on Africa...Like how it would be a great place if only us mean whitey Nations would just leave them alone.

Good to see this place can leave politics aside for 5 minutes to focus on a worthwhile is--

Telling people in undeveloped or developing nations to stop having children--no matter what your reasoning is--is like telling those people to commit national suicide. Economic development and an educated populace will lead to future prosperity and stability, and they can't do that if millions of them are dying from lack of food and clean water. They need workers, inventors, labourers, students, taxpayers etc. Not mass graves.

Telling them to literally f*ck off with reproduction is the most asinine, selfish, greedy, and short-sighted thing a Westerner could say to them. It's pretty great that in the modern world, we still want one of the solutions to famine and global poverty to be mass death.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Good to see this place can leave politics aside for 5 minutes to focus on a worthwhile is--

Telling people in undeveloped or developing nations to stop having children--no matter what your reasoning is--is like telling those people to commit national suicide. Economic development and an educated populace will lead to future prosperity and stability, and they can't do that if millions of them are dying from lack of food and clean water. They need workers, inventors, labourers, students, taxpayers etc. Not mass graves.

Telling them to literally f*ck off with reproduction is the most asinine, selfish, greedy, and short-sighted thing a Westerner could say to them. It's pretty great that in the modern world, we still want one of the solutions to famine and global poverty to be mass death.

I agree with you, but I honestly think this person is just trolling at this point.

Whi... which one?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Whi... which one?

There is only one poster here who mentioned that they should stop reproducing.

YouTube video

Does this video correlate with the current topic? I feel we can never put a dent in starvation of the world. These people need to help themselves, instead of running to America and staying there.

Originally posted by vansonbee
These people need to help themselves, instead of running to America and staying there.

Couldn't it be a combo of both?

Originally posted by Robtard
Couldn't it be a combo of both?

But yeah it's probably both.

YouTube video

Originally posted by vansonbee
YouTube video

Does this video correlate with the current topic? I feel we can never put a dent in starvation of the world. These people need to help themselves, instead of running to America and staying there.

I'm laughing at one of the comments on the video:

"Uh wow, okay, this video is very problematic. Wow, i need a moment, oh wow, you guys are just like the Death Eaters from Harry Potter, wow. Why don't you want immigrants who use their hands as toilet paper handling your food, wow, are you racist or something? Gosh this video has got me rattled, I need to watch some John Oliver to unwind."

What he says at the end isn't wrong. The best way to help the people of the under developed world is to actually help them where they live. Better infrastructure, more education, female emancipation, democracy, etc. Thinking that the only way to "help" people is by bringing them to you is deceptively arrogant.

That doesn't mean we should discourage immigration or turn away those fleeing war and famine. Do both; help them when they come here looking for sanctuary, help them when they stay at home and still need help. We're supremely wealthy and powerful enough to succeed if we actively make a concerted effort.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
What he says at the end isn't wrong. The best way to help the people of the under developed world is to actually help them where they live. Better infrastructure, more education, female emancipation, democracy, etc. Thinking that the only way to "help" people is by bringing them to you is deceptively arrogant.

That doesn't mean we should discourage immigration or turn away those fleeing war and famine. Do both; help them when they come here looking for sanctuary, help them when they stay at home and still need help. We're supremely wealthy and powerful enough to succeed if we actively make a concerted effort.

Sure we are. The problem is that wealth is concentrated in the hands of a very small number of people, and any "help" will only go so far before it cuts into their lifestyle..

Whether it's personal giving or government taxation.

Nothing is stopping 'you' from sending them money or opening your home to refugees.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Nothing is stopping 'you' from sending them money or opening your home to refugees.

You're quite correct. 🙂

But that's the point, isn't it? Saying this country is so rich and powerful, that it could solve East Africa or anyone elses problems is asking people to do exactly that.

Some of them might, and many of them won't, but it comes down to the individuals. Wealth of a nation really means nothing, because people control wealth. Individuals. (Will add that I spoke of wealth concentration because Lucian brougbt up our countries vast wealth as a solution. It's a political to point out that vast wealth is in the hands of men and women, and not a monolth "American bank" we could direct.)

Originally posted by cdtm
You're quite correct. 🙂

But that's the point, isn't it? Saying this country is so rich and powerful, that it could solve East Africa or anyone elses problems is asking people to do exactly that.

Some of them might, and many of them won't, but it comes down to the individuals. Wealth of a nation really means nothing, because people control wealth. Individuals.

So instead of demanding that our governments (and our society, culture, and established institutions) do something to end world poverty, we gently rail against it while naval gazing. And to justify our apathy we come up with "obvious solutions" for humanity's destitute: "solve your own problems" we say, or "stop breeding," and declare that the world's problems aren't solvable because the people we "want" to help are too barbarous or stupid or worthless to help. It's their fault they're dying after all.