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Originally posted by Azronger
Nomi severed Ulic who's > novel Vitiate. Yes she can 🙂
People tend to move forward but you are going backward.
Ever since the Emperor was introduced and promoted as the most powerful Force-user in the lore, earlier promotions of Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma are suspect. TOR sources acknowledge Kun's great strength and Ulic as his peer but they do not affirm that these two guys were stronger than the Emperor at any point because it won't make any sense. TOR sources acknowledged Naga Sadow as one of the most powerful Sith in history FYI. Point is that TOR sources do not exclude any notable character from re-evaluation but are consistent in promoting the superiority of the Emperor over the others.
Emperor - as of Revan - is promoted as an almost godlike avatar of the Dark Side with feats of dismissing an entire Dark Council in a confrontation with Sith Sorcery, corrupting the environment of Dromund Kaas with Sith Sorcery (a planetary-scale showing), stated to be two powerful for even the duo of Revan and Alek to tackle, and overwhelming the most powerful Jedi in history [Revan in his prime] with sheer raw power in a confrontation.
Ulic has nothing on Vitiate. Stalemating a pre-prime Kun is not enough.
Originally posted by Azronger
'Kay. Now do you actually have something worthwhile that would prove novel Vitiate's superiority to Kun or Ulic? By "worthwhile" I mean something that doesn't rely on unquantifiable hyperbole, or that appeals to ignorance with a primitive feats-only mentality?
And Vitiate (Nov) >> Revan (Reborn)
Quantifiable enough for you?
Originally posted by Azronger
Completely baseless claims, lmao. 😂
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Revan humbles Nomi Sunrider in a confrontation.
Vitiate: confirmed as Revan's superior in the novel and another source. Revan himself wasn't sure if he could handle Vitiate on his own.
Not sure if you are trolling or serious.
1. That makes Revan better than Jedi!Kun and Ulic; they still had pretty substantial power-growth's afterwards. His control of the Force being > Nihilus doesn't mean he himself possesses more power than Nihilus.
2. Good; Vitiate is > Revan, but that doesn't change that Exar Kun is canonically better. 👆
Originally posted by MythLord
1. That makes Revan better than Jedi!Kun and Ulic; they still had pretty substantial power-growth's afterwards. His control of the Force being > Nihilus doesn't mean he himself possesses more power than Nihilus.
But Revan was that strong as of Battle of Malachor V.
Revan (Reborn) is a major leap from that point in time. No wonder he one-shotted a member of the Dark Council who had humbled the duo of Lord Scourge and Meetra Surik earlier.
And Revan's superior control isn't detached from his raw power. If anything, it enables him to make more effective use of his raw power than others.
Originally posted by MythLord
2. Good; Vitiate is > Revan, but that doesn't change that Exar Kun is canonically better. 👆
TOR sources recognize Kun's great strength but do not affirm his superority over Vitiate at any point. They do reveal that ancient Sith considered Kun a legitimate Sith.