Originally posted by AncientPower
Her Force power caused explosions that reduced the mountain to ashes, without any serious strain, whilst in orbit.In no way did I say that this does change that, I'm pointing out how ridiculous it is to take a LeGenD stance on a TOR character, call the character overrated and ignore the fact that she's actually much more powerful than we think when we actually bother to consider her feats.
On the other side of the camp, some members are asserting that Yoda will solo the TOR group and Ulic Qel-Droma is more powerful than Vitiate.
So Vaylin didn't disintegrate that facility but it was that machine? Right. Thanks for proving Vaylin is a joke. You undermined your own argument with that. Keep up the good work. 👆
Originally posted by SunRazer
It's not a thought. It's a concentrated, meditated attack.
I also revisited the relevant chapter to check if AncientPower was right or not.
It seems that Vaylin destroyed the entire Sanitarium with her power. Since the Sanitarium had vast underground sections, its destruction led to the collapse of the mountain where it was located. So yes, in a way, Vaylin destroyed the entire setting. On the whole, this feat is really impressive.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Also, I thought someone posted a quote about Nathema being so strong with the dark side that it became akin to a void?
Few stories surrounding Valkorion are as chilling as the tale of Nathema. Long before assuming his current form, Valkorion was a Sith pureblood named Vitiate born on the lush and vibrant world of Medriaas. Vitiate rose to become Emperor of the Sith and ruled for over a thousand years--but only after extracting a terrible price.
Early in his reign, Vitiate invited thousands of the most powerful Sith Lords to his homeworld, then wiped out his would-be challengers in a profane dark side ritual that annihilated all life on the planet. Even the Force could not survive. The void that remained after the ritual brought pain and suffering to any Force-sensitive beings that approached.
The name Medriaas was purged from the galactic record and the barren planet became known as Nathema. Centuries later, Valkorion banished his daughter Vaylin to the blighted world, knowing the void would limit her growing power and make her more susceptible to the mental conditioning he could use to control her... if it didn't drive her mad.
Taken from codex entry in KoTET titled "Nathema."
Originally posted by SunRazerA highly disingenuous description of the feat yeah, it's not remotely on Plagueis' level.
Yeah, she blew up that generator thing with a concentrated attack. You made it sound like she actually disintegrated a mountain directly.In no way does this change what I said regarding Yoda and Palpatine and the Outlander.
On topic, Team 2 steam rolls.
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My bad on that.
However, I don't recall Yoda or Darth Plagueis demonstrating something similar from outerspace, like ever.
Keeping in mind the fact that Vaylin can handle forces that will atomize even incredibly strong Force-users and her offensive showings are not any less, I see her in the league of Yoda and Darth Plagueis easily.
Originally posted by Geistalt
Someone who fought evenly with someone definitively > Valk.Vaylin > Valkorion confirmed.
In-fact, BioWare's lead writer perceives Valkorion to be just as strong as Palpatine (DE) but with superior CONTROL and edge in combat. Although an unofficial opinion of a professional, it is still something in the absence of a definitive comparison between Palpatine and Valkorion in the literature.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDI don't recall Vaylin absorbing the lightning of he most powerful Sith Lord in history, or stretching out across the galaxy to inform every being of her existence, or levitating an army of battle droids with TK, or burying a Tenebrous-tier Force user before he realised what had hit him. mmm
However, I don't recall Yoda or Darth Plagueis demonstrating something similar from outerspace, like ever.
Feat wars is a fun game LeG, but Vaylin doesn't do so well in it. ❌
Keeping in mind the fact that Vaylin can handle forces that will atomize even incredibly strong Force-users and her offensive showings are not any less, I see her in the league of Yoda and Darth Plagueis easily.So can Vader, and so far you've given me no reason to put her any higher. 👆
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I don't recall Vaylin absorbing the lightning of he most powerful Sith Lord in history,
I'd say tanking a hyperdrive explosion and forces of the BRAIN machine are up there.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
or stretching out across the galaxy to inform every being of her existence,
Originally posted by Beniboybling
or levitating an army of battle droids with TK,
https://i.imgur.com/BytFLox.mp4
She can replicate that showing easily.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
or burying a Tenebrous-tier Force user before he realised what had hit him. mmm
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Feat wars is a fun game LeG, but Vaylin doesn't do so well in it. ❌So can Vader, and so far you've given me no reason to put her any higher. 👆
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDNot even close. 😂
And Yoda was done after that.I'd say tanking a hyperdrive explosion and forces of the BRAIN machine is up there.
That is not a feat of strength.It's a clear display of power lol, I also forgot to add that the Force ran from him in response.
When has Vaylin done something similar?
Really?A Marek-tier showing, if that. 🙁https://i.imgur.com/BytFLox.mp4
She can replicate that showing easily.
Darth Tenebrous did not saw it coming. If he had known, he would have prepared himself for it.Quite, because Plagueis brought it down before he even knew what hit him. When has Vaylin done something similar?
Vaylin more than holds her own. 🙂Against Vader sure, she probably loses tho.