Originally posted by quanchi112Yeah, I like Kill Bill. You don't have to explain any of this to me. The intentions behind the scene were clear. I am simply tired of reading/finding excuses for Maul's failures. Star Wars characters are not real sword fighters. Even average Jedi mastery grants the ability to easily deflect blaster bolts. Imagine their precognition/perception speed. The likes of Kit Fisto is on a level beyond average Jedi's comprehension. On such level, you don't go down so fast when fighting someone near your level. That is simply not how Star Wars works. Still, I'd be willing to ignore the well established laws of Star Wars fighting for someone who has never lost in this manner, but this isn't the first time Maul fails in such fashion.
Ok listen to me since you seem to be one of the rabid fanboy types. I hope you saw the double feature Kill Bill. We saw an extended fight with Daryl Hannah's character in a trailer. But when she finally catches up to Bill it was a much shorter duel. That doesn't mean Bill was inferior to Daryl's character. You have to grasp what is occurring and the sheer gravity, history, and depth of the situation all the characters are in as well as the circumstances.
Originally posted by SiniousSo you are saying the Maul who took on Palpatine was the very same level at the time he took on Kenobi in the rebels era ? The creator explained the reasoning and the thiught into this brief battle. You're choosing to ignore them in favor of YOUR perception. What you don't realize is your perception will never dictate Star Wars canon. Filoni dictates what occurred and he explained it. Maul is arrogant no one is denying this but he was broken and past his prime in the rebels era.
Yeah, I like Kill Bill. You don't have to explain any of this to me. The intentions behind the scene were clear. I am simply tired of reading/finding excuses for Maul's failures. Star Wars characters are not real sword fighters. Even average Jedi mastery grants the ability to easily deflect blaster bolts. Imagine their precognition/perception speed. The likes of Kit Fisto is on a level beyond average Jedi's comprehension. On such level, you don't go down so fast when fighting someone near your level. That is simply not how Star Wars works. Still, I'd be willing to ignore the well established laws of Star Wars fighting for someone who has never lost in this manner, but this isn't the first time Maul fails in such fashion.
Like I said, he consistently messes up due to his stupidity. It isn't just one case. There is no justifying his incompetence now. But seeing how you have to resort to the wankery of Palpatine himself is nice to watch.
Originally posted by Darth ThorMy standards have not changed. What comes into canon is entirely different than what's axed on the cutting floor. That's just his opinion on an idea but what comes to pass becomes factual information. His insight onto canon and what is fact is entirely different. You should understand that much if you had a brain that is.
Funny how Quan keeps quoting "the creator" now, yet argued we should ignore him when he said Vader would have killed Maul had they met.
Originally posted by SiniousHe is a lost person and has been throughout the rebels era. He's been isolated for decades. That has a huge impact on ones psyche. By sheer force of will he still defied the empire and the rebels. He's always been arrogant and selfish to the bitter end. He's a true Sith as Kenobi was a true Jedi. Anakin was a true ***** to the end of his life.
Like I said, he consistently messes up due to his stupidity. It isn't just one case. There is no justifying his incompetence now. But seeing how you have to resort to the wankery of Palpatine himself is nice to watch.
No they aren't:
"The actual duel is very short, how did you come to the conclusion it had to come this way?...(feloni) If you talk to a lot of people who sword fight, they'll tell you people who are very good don't have long fights. So that scene, its a homage to the 7th samurai. I think on one level people would be excited to see a prolonged lightsaber fight. But I just never really saw the confrontation that way because to do that is to say the characters don't have growth "
The "characters don't have growth" part isn't even needed here given the context of the quote.
The quote refers both to maul and kenobi and shows both have progressed from their tcw selves.
So Ahsoka and Maul still turn fisto into fishfood