Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Shaak isn't better than prime Galen.
Galen roughly stalemated her in lightsaber combat in their fight on Felucia, and since then Galen has quotes saying he increased in skill, increased substantially in baseline physicality, and several quotes sprinkled throughout the rest of the book mentioning various power growths he's had since then.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
We see how 9s handle 8s with Anakin and Yoda vs Dooku and Palpatine vs Maul.Anakin's performance is more consistent with Palpatine's handling of a 7 like Kit.
From what I remember they fought while Vader was choking one student, then we he finished off the padawan they had a short exchange and then Drallig was cut down.
Palpatine cut Fisto down somewhat quicker and even then that's only because Palpatine spend two seconds picking off the other two masters.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Sources vary, but the novel has Anakin killing Drallig in a single strike.I'll check when I get home, but the VG also conveys something along those lines of great speed.
I'd wager Anakin killed him faster than Sheev did Kit, or at least around that time.
Only the RotS novel mentions that Anakin strided through and hacked through Drallig's shoulder.
Stone-faced, Obi-Wan watched younglings run into the room, fleeing a storm of blasterfire; he watched Cin Drallig and a pair of teenage Padawans-was that Whie, the boy Yoda had brought to Vjun?-backing into the scene, blades whirling, cutting down the advancing clone troopers with deflected bolts.He watched a lightsaber blade flick into the shot, cutting down first one Padawan, then the other. He watched the brisk stride of a caped figure who hacked through Drallig's shoulder, then stood aside as the old Troll fell dying to let the rest of the clones blast the children to shreds.
- Taken from RoTS novel
The VG doesn't mention really anything.
Rise of Darth Vader mentions, that he remembers pitting blades against Drallig.
In his mind's eye Vader saw his and the 501st's march to the Temple gates, their wrathful attack, the mad moments of bloodlust, the dark side unleashed in all its crimson fury. Some moments he remembered more clearly than others: pitting his blade against that of swordmaster Cin Drallig, beheading some of the very Masters who had instructed him in the ways of the Force, and, of course, his cold extermination of the younglings, and with them the future of the Jedi order.- Taken from Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
The Unseen Queen mentions that the two fought toe to toe for an instant before he was cut down.
A huge Jedi with stooped shoulders and a gnarled face backed into view, anchoring the line of teenage defenders, his lightsaber sending bolt after bolt back at the attackers, lashing out to cut down one trooper after another. A pair of Padawans stepped in to support his flanks, and the entire line stopped falling back, the lightsabers of the young Jedi weaving an impenetrable wall of energy that-for a few short moments-allowed nothing past, not a blaster bolt, nor a clone trooper, nor even, it seemed to Han, a stray glance.
A blue lightsaber appeared at the edge of the holo, beating down the defense of the first Padawan and slashing through his torso, then slipping past the guard of the other one and cutting him down as well. The back of a blond head and a pair of caped shoulders appeared behind the blue blade and began to carry the attack to the stoop-shouldered Jedi.
The two stood battling toe-to-toe for only an instant before the caped figure slipped a strike and brought his own blade down on the defender's stooped shoulder, cleaving him deep into the torso. The Jedi's gnarled face paled with shock, and he collapsed in too much pain to scream.
- Taken from Dark Nest 2: The Unseen Queen
So I'd say yeah, probably roughly around the same speed if you take all into account.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
So... Jinn>Drallig>Galen>>Shaak Ti?Jinn>>>>Shaak? Meh that actually doesn't bug me that much lel
IIRC, Galen was on the backfoot against Shaak on Felucia, and even afterwards, despite "improvements", his struggles against Maris Brood and a paltry Shadow Guard don't lead me to believe that he particularly outstripped Shaak. Maybe by the end of the game he was better, but not by much. Likewise, if Drallig was better, it wouldn't be by too much against Galen. The same goes for Qui-Gon vs Drallig.
In the novel, an apparently weakened Galen is staggered by Maris Brood's assault, although this was on a DS nexus (not that Brood has anything off-nexus). He then switches from Soresu to Juyo, a form which Maris isn't familiar with due to her limited Jedi training, and overwhelms her.
Later on Raxus Prime, he nearly gets knocked flat by a strike from a Shadow Guard and the two later fight back and forth for a while. I posted a quote in the Tyranus vs Vader thread.
Originally posted by SunRazer
IIRC, Galen was on the backfoot against Shaak on Felucia, and even afterwards, despite "improvements", his struggles against Maris Brood and a paltry Shadow Guard don't lead me to believe that he particularly outstripped Shaak. Maybe by the end of the game he was better, but not by much. Likewise, if Drallig was better, it wouldn't be by too much against Galen. The same goes for Qui-Gon vs Drallig.
All we know is that Mace and Jinn were superior swordsmen to Anoon Bondara, and since Drallig could be assumed to be roughly equal to Bondara, the same applies to him.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Just because they were both Battlemasters doesn't mean they can equated. By that logic, HoT ~ Jun Seros. That's just fallacious logic.
Not sure who they are. But we can at least infer that as battlemasters and instructors of lightsaber combat, they were both masters of all seven forms of lightsaber combat.
Bondara was considered the premiere lightsaber duelist of the order, and Drallig was considered in his own time as unparalleled with the lightsaber.
I can't definitively say they are roughly equals, but both had very similar traits.