All we know is that he's certain to appear in a cutscene and that the sabotage of the Eternal Alliance is suspiciously similar to Malgus' operandi. There's also the fact that many exotic and high tech materials were supplied to the "rebels" and Malgus had been known to employ alien technicians and the such.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
The official SWTOR site still says that flashpoint is a team quest or something so I doubt the solo fight is anything more than game mechanics.
Originally posted by Petrus
Yeah. I doubt I need to remind you guys that in Revan's FP you fight HK-49 as a Strike Team, as well. I seriously question the idea that it would take the 4 protags to take down a droid.
That's why you called it Revan's flashpoint and not HK's. The objective of the flashpoint is to take down Revan, HK is a sub boss.
Originally posted by TenebrousWay
That's why you called it Revan's flashpoint and not HK's. The objective of the flashpoint is to take down Revan, HK is a sub boss.
Still, it's not like you take it down with ease. It takes 4 protags to defeat him and his small droid army. In reality, a single protag would be more than enough for Hk, lol.
Originally posted by Petrus
Still, it's not like you take it down with ease. It takes 4 protags to defeat him and his small droid army. In reality, a single protag would be more than enough for Hk, lol.
History wise, it takes 4 protags to take down Revan - who is the reason the strike team is assembled in the first place. HK being difficult to defeat is pure game mechanics.
Where is that ever said? Story-wise, they just give credit to whoever went, and in SoR, they just give credit to the protagonist who is there. You don't get to just arbitrarily decided what is and isn't game mechanics using boss fights. Either it's all, or nothing(unless stated to the contrary). Just like in story, it is acknowledged when you defeat Malgus solo. Until there is some sort of official storyline, i.e. never, you have to acknowledge all possibilities shown on screen. Maybe even after. If it were meant to be impossible, it wouldn't be possible to begin with.
Petrus stated that it took 4 protags to take HK down, I corrected him explanining that the objective of the mission is to stop Revan. What applies to Revan doesn't necessarily applies to HK, as a sub boss.
The fact flashpoints exist after all, is clearly indicator that, story wise, for that particular objective, a group of people is assembled. Otherwise, there'd be no reason for their existence at all. I'd also like to ask you: is Ant wrong when he stated the encyclopedia refers that it was a group that actually fought Malgus/Revan whatever?
I have no idea about what you're talking in reference to me deciding what is or what isn't game mechanics. HK being difficulty to defeat is certainly game mechanics - unless you think bosses in SWTOR can realisticaly suffer dozens of lightsabers wounds plus granades plus blaster fire before being defeated?!
You're making some serious leaps in logic if you think Revan being the objective somehow makes him have different rules apply to him. The objective of the mission was send an entire fleet at Malak. Or Vader. Or Vitiate. Or Krayt. I could go on. Still only took one Jedi. Being the objective isn't what decided any of those things. Those are all vastly different situations that require logical conclusions outside of being "the objective."
It actually isn't. Especially since storywise that's never said, and doing them solo is acknowledged by the story. Flashpoints only point to them being balanced for multiple people to do at once because it's an MMO. Even that isn't required anymore.And what Ant actually said is that the encyclopedia states a strike team was sent, by both sides no less, to face Malgus. I think it's pretty clear both sides didn't have teams inside the Emperor's Space Station, but regardless, the encyclopedia isn't even a canon for TOR let alone anything else. It was a pre-release reference guide that isn't even consistent within itself. That's not even mentioning it's consistency with the game. Acting like it determines anything is asinine.
Don't be dense. The point is, as I stated above, you are no the authority on what is and what is not difficult. HK being a hard boss fight is a game mechanic. So if Revan requiring four people to beat him, unless stated otherwise. Period. Or you think HK requires four people just like Revan did. You don't get to decide as it suits you.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You're making some serious leaps in logic if you think Revan being the objective somehow makes him have different rules apply to him. The objective of the mission was send an entire fleet at Malak. Or Vader. Or Vitiate. Or Krayt. I could go on. Still only took one Jedi. Being the objective isn't what decided any of those things. Those are all vastly different situations that require logical conclusions outside of being "the objective."
What?! I'm saying that if it takes four people to stop Revan to take control of the Foundry, it doesn't mean it takes 4 people to to defeat HK, or that it takes 4 people to take down fodder droids in the flashpoint. I'm not understanding what's your point at all.
It actually isn't. Especially since storywise that's never said, and doing them solo is acknowledged by the story. Flashpoints only point to them being balanced for multiple people to do at once because it's an MMO. Even that isn't required anymore.And what Ant actually said is that the encyclopedia states a strike team was sent, by both sides no less, to face Malgus. I think it's pretty clear both sides didn't have teams inside the Emperor's Space Station, but regardless, the encyclopedia isn't even a canon for TOR let alone anything else. It was a pre-release reference guide that isn't even consistent within itself. That's not even mentioning it's consistency with the game. Acting like it determines anything is asinine.
What prevents Malgus from fighting two teams, by the way? 🙂 The fact there are only four people there may simple be game mechanics, who knows. 🙂🙂🙂
Additionaly, the fact two teams are referred there gives more support to the team mode than the solo mode, regardless of TOR not having a canon story.
Don't be dense. The point is, as I stated above, you are no the authority on what is and what is not difficult. HK being a hard boss fight is a game mechanic. So if Revan requiring four people to beat him, unless stated otherwise. Period. Or you think HK requires four people just like Revan did. You don't get to decide as it suits you.
LMFAO. My comment about HK being difficult was a reply to Petrus, who considered him to be difficult to beat. So I never presumed myself to hold "authority on what is and what is not difficult."
You could've gone direct to the point and stated that you consider flashpoints to be completely game mechanics without any connection to the story at all. I'm going to disagree with you, especially if the closest material to a "canon" we've states otherwise.