Ahsoka was at a disadvantage when she fought vader

Started by Rockydonovang3 pages
Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Originally posted by Sinious
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carthage PLEASE PROTECT ME STONES

REBELS MAUL WAS INSANE BECAUSE HE WANDERED THE DESERT AND KENOBIS WIN WAS A TOTALLY CIRCUMSTANTIAL VICTORY BECAUSE MAUL WAS EMOTIONALLY NOT THINKING STRAIGHT, AND FILONI MADE TONS OF STATEMENTS THAT MAKE THE FIGHT CIRCUMSTANTIAL.

-Excuses from Maultards and idiots who can't accept the fact Maul is shit and constantly loses to everyone he fights.

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Originally posted by carthage
REBELS MAUL WAS INSANE BECAUSE HE WANDERED THE DESERT AND KENOBIS WIN WAS A TOTALLY CIRCUMSTANTIAL VICTORY BECAUSE MAUL WAS EMOTIONALLY NOT THINKING STRAIGHT, AND FILONI MADE TONS OF STATEMENTS THAT MAKE THE FIGHT CIRCUMSTANTIAL.

-Excuses from Maultards and idiots who can't accept the fact Maul is shit and constantly loses to everyone he fights.


But waiit? Feloni said:
(feloni) If you talk to a lot of people who sword fight, they'll tell you people who are very good don't have long fights. So that scene, its a homage to the 7th samurai. I think on one level people would be excited to see a prolonged lightsaber fight. But I just never really saw the confrontation that way because to do that is to say the characters don't have growth "

SO obviously Rebls Maul would get stomped by tcw maul.

Oh and he also said:

'When pressed, because Obi-Wan is protecting someone else in the end, he does fight. But because he is so true and knows who he is in that moment, you can鈥檛 defeat that''

SO Kenobi obviously just got lucky

samappo Senior Member

"Kenobi got lucky" xD Give me a break.

relentless1 Dark Overlord of KMC

Kenobi sure didn't look like get got lucky, he looked like somebody 100% on their game

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

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samappo Senior Member

Obviously Vader had the advantage of knowing Tano's technique. And he is clearly shown overpowering her with his strikes and pushing her back. I really can't see a reason why she'd be able to strike back or kill Vader in a lightsaber duel.

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Maybe he exploited ataru's wekness and took the fight to that narrow space because she knew ahsoka wouldn't have space to jump around and would be forced to revert to her secondary djem so which while incredibly impressive(given how she was able to match and even hold her ground for a bit vs several of vade's strikes) wasn;t a match for vader's.

Regardless it certainly helped vader win given its a reason he can beat her which makes ahsoka challenging vader as well as she did impressive and puts her hsowing comparable to ben's vs vader overall, especially when you consider that ben trained vader.

samappo Senior Member

No, she was proficient in the Shien variant of Form V, as far as we know she didn't study Djem So.

She is an impressive duelist, but Vader>Tano even without knowing her fighting style frankly.

Trocity Undefeated and Undisputed

Cringe.

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Originally posted by samappo
No, she was proficient in the Shien variant of Form V, as far as we know she didn't study Djem So.

She is an impressive duelist, but Vader>Tano even without knowing her fighting style frankly.


I don't think its explciitly stated but I'd say djem so was a part of her style given her frequent use of strength based attacks in fights(see her season 2 fight vs offee, her fight vs grevious, or her fight while turned to the darkside vs anakin). And when they were fighting at the edge she was trying to meet vader's strength with her own.

samappo Senior Member

Actually I think I remember a source saying Anakin was teaching her Djem So. Fair point.

Still, I think she relied on Ataru and Shien primarily rather than Djem So.

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

regardless she certainly wasn't using ataru or at a minimum ataru in the same way she was using it in a wide open space.

Anyway, this speculation isn't needed.

Vader's victory can at least partially be attributed to his training of her and given that she still challenged him I'd say its fair to consider them near equals, just as it is with ben kenobi.

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
regardless she certainly wasn't using ataru or at a minimum ataru in the same way she was using it in a wide open space.

Anyway, this speculation isn't needed.

Vader's victory can at least partially be attributed to his training of her and given that she still challenged him I'd say its fair to consider them near equals, just as it is with ben kenobi.

So that we're clear, I'm not disputing vader's superiority

SunRazer Back From The Dead

I thought this was going to be something about Malachor's DS nexus.

samappo Senior Member

I'm sure canon is going eventually reveal Vader to be at his best during ROTJ, I hope so anyway. It makes more sense in my opinion.

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Don't think that exists, though for what it's worth, maul#2 had maul learning to embrace the pain from the dead Jedi t malachor iirc.

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

Originally posted by samappo
I'm sure canon is going eventually reveal Vader to be at his best during ROTJ, I hope so anyway. It makes more sense in my opinion.

Vader believes he grew stronger from killing ben though nova has argued against that. Regardless I have no problem with canon Vader being raised. If a pre prime Vader is tanking malachor level explosions with his force barrier, makes me excited what Roth Vader would be doing in canon of he's stronger

samappo Senior Member

Where does it say that Vader believes he grew stronger from killing Ben?

Rockydonovang freedom fighter

The scan and the arguments pro and against here:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/darth-vader-ben-kenobi-vs-anakin-skywalker-obi-wan-1848834/?page=1