Originally posted by Lord Stark
There's a difference between generic Force Lightning and full powered Sith Lighting. Sith Lightning like Dooku's is just on a different level."A Jedi sufficiently strong in the Force can be trained to produce a facsimile, but not true Sith lightning, which, unabated, has the power not only to incapacitate or kill, but to physically transform the victim. Force lightning requires strength of a sort only a Sith can command because we accept consequence and reject compassion. To do so requires a thirst for power that is not easily satisfied. The Force tries to resist the callings of ravenous spirits; therefore it must be broken and made a beast of burden. It must be made to answer one's will. But the Force cannot be treated deferentially. In order to summon and use lightning properly, you will someday have to be on the receiving end of its power, as a means of taking the energy inside yourself."- Darth Plagueis
Edit: Wait, I see what you're meaning.
@darthant That's not what happened(and three strikes is better than getting one shotted with a kick at the start despite the presence of fcking mace windu(sod)
1. Maul tried dun moch on Ahsoka, but Ahsoka ended up resisting it and actually countered with an insult(terrible writing honestly) that goaded maul into charging her
2. Ahsoka feinted not being able to handle maul's strength whe she repelled his strikes to get him in position(implying she could indeed handle the strength of his blows)
3. Ahsoka then he,d maul in a bladelock for several seconds while the trap got ready to be sprung
4. Ahsoka got out of the way and maul got trapped.
"Running away again lady tano" was a reference to her declining to kill maul because captain Rex was in danger . Maul then proceeded to escape.
The point being ahsoka's showing vs maul was way way better than secura's
As was her showing vs grevious in tcw
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Their fight consisted of a single bladelock, which is a great strength feat for Ahsoka, but nothing suggesting she can legit contend with Maul as of that point in time.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
And yet she's still a better combatant than many Jedi Masters during the Clone Wars. mmm Either way, being in multiple legitimate duels with the likes of Grievous, Ventress, Vizsla and Barriss is easily better and more practical experience than sparring with fellow Jedi.
That's not what you said. If you want to go by that logic Yoda's only been in a real duel twice against Dooku and once against Sidious. Is Ahsoka more experienced than Yoda?
And? He still never faced lightning before, so why wasn't he blindsided by it and disarmed?
He's still faced Sith Lords. Makes sense he'd have a lot of knowledge and study on how to defeat them *10 years after his first fight with them*. And yet Kenobi who knew how to defend against it didn't teach Anakin in spite of Skywalker being his Padawan for years longer than Ahsoka was Anakin's.
'I'm going to make a claim with no evidence while lambasting other people's arguments because they supposedly have no evidence.' Okay, got it.
Its just common sense. Dooku's lighting is powerful enough that when Ventress blocks it with her saber it literally forces her to the ground. The gap between Dooku and Ahsoka is FAR greater than the gap between Sidious and Yoda (there is none). So yeah its plausible that Dooku could disarm Ahsoka with lightning.
And why do you think it makes sense that Ahsoka wouldn't know what the technique is? Anakin just forgot to tell her about it?
Because its not as simple as 'raise your saber'. If it was then you'd think Ventress would mention it to her Nightsisters.
Is that talking about blocking it with your lightsaber or tutaminis?
Neither its referring to Sith Lightning. Its clearly a technique that takes skill otherwise Savage would have done it. Savage may not be a genius but FFS if he can figure out how to telekinetically hurl Jedi he can figure out how to raise his lightsaber. As can Anakin. Its pretty clear FL is fast and strong enough that even Force sensitives struggle to react to it.
Bulq didn't even have a chance to block it because Dooku electrocuted him immediately after disarming him.
Sora has two sabers. Being disarmed of his shoto doesn't prevent him from blocking lightning.
Just FYI, I'm not claiming Ahsoka would be always successful in deflecting Dooku's lightning in an actual combat scenario, i.e. if Dooku were to engage her in lightsaber combat, disarm her, and then blast her with lightning like Dooku did with Bulq. Rather, I think Ahsoka could block it in a situation similar to how Kenobi did in AotC. Dooku is clearly massively superior to Ahsoka in the Force and lightsaber combat so that he could work some lightning into an attack sequence and hit her with it.
Ahsoka has displayed no capacity to deflect lightning. We've seen Dooku's lightning kill powerful force users, kill swathes of clone troopers, nightbrothers, and Kiffar. Even if Ahsoka could deflect regular force lightning from fodder there's no way in hell I'd just grant her the ability to deflect the lightning of one of the most powerful Sith Lords in history.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
It's not, can dooku disarm Ahsoka with lightning it's, can she disarm 5 ahsoka's with lightning
He'd kill all 5 Ahsoka's with lightning. None of them would be capable of defending. Why? Because there's no evidence at all its within the realm of something that
"is a challenge for even the most powerful Jedi Masters to deflect". Dooku does what he did to the nightbrothers. Kills them all with a lightning storm. GG.
Here's what Dooku did to a Jedi Knight and 4 Clone Troopers.
"In rapid succession Dooku cut down one clone escort, Force-threw Cody down the corridor and against the bulkhead, freed Vos, then blasted everyone in front of him, including Bayons, with Force Lightning. The Chagrian and the four clones went down, writhing in agony."
If it were 5 Bayons the outcome would have been the same.
I could see it tbh:
"Dooku was a blur of motion, easily faster than one of them, maybe even two of them, but all five of them together were a whirlwind of motion to quick for him to properly react to. He was driven into a desperate retreat, backpedalling frantically as his decades of careful refinement and practice fell away into a desperate flailing of his blade just to keep the ten blades before him at bay.
He knew he couldn't keep this up for more than three seconds or else he'd overextend, so after two seconds, Dooku seized two of the Ahsokas in the Force, hurling them back several meters onto their backs. He continued to backpedal under the offensive pressure of the three Ahsoka's still striking at him. He attempted to strike two of them with Force lightning, but one of them deflected the lightning with her blades, and another simply wasn't there when Dooku's lightning struck. The Ahsoka he had not thrown violent bolts of Sith lightning at charged him while his attention was split, meeting him in a bladelock before driving her heel into his abdomen, driving him several meters back into a doubled over crouch.
While he was recovering from the blow, the Ahsoka who had dodged his lightning extended a hand and ripped his weapon from his grasp with the power of the Force. Just then, one of the Ahsoka's charged Dooku with a couple of strikes from her blades, which he narrowly evaded by leaning back. Taking advantage of the opening, the Ahsoka stomp kicked Dooku in the ribcage, shattering five of his ribs and slamming him into the ground hard enough to crack three more.
Dooku tried to rise back up to his feet, but as he was starting to lean up one of the other Ahsokas charged forwards and extended both arms, slamming his head into the ground with the power of the Force despite his feeble efforts to defend himself. One of the Ahsokas extended her blade at Dooku's throat and said "You are beaten."
The two Ahsokas Dooku had previously hurled were still on the other end of the room, having returned to their feet, but having been distracted by the arrival of General Grievous, who they had defeated. One of them had ripped his lightsabers out of his cloak with the Force before he could respond while the other had cut his arms and legs off in a whirlwind of motion, leaving him completely immobile and helpless"
-The Five Ahsokas, cowritten by Dave Filoni and Christie Golden