What makes Islam so special?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I agree with Sam Harris that the most timely solution is ideological reform, though it's mind****y due to the difficulty in reforming Islam due to the life of Muhammad and how he's supposed to be an exemplary human being, sketchier than Jesus, Buddha, or even Joseph Smith or L Ron Hubbard.

(Not sure what you mean by "exemplary" and "sketchier"😉, but because the religion is so strict about infidels and apostasy, the reform has to come from within the faith, from more moderate Muslims. It's up to the moderates to reform the faith.

They're obviously not going to listen to anti-religious people, or "atheists." Because what do we know with all of our rational reasoning... 🙄

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
(Not sure what you mean by "exemplary" and "sketchier"😉, but because the religion is so strict about infidels and apostasy, the reform has to come from within the faith, from more moderate Muslims. It's up to the moderates to reform the faith.

They're obviously not going to listen to anti-religious people, or "atheists." Because what do we know with all of our rational reasoning... 🙄

Muhammad was a great guy, he was really ahead of the competition. Mostly because he removed their heads, but still...results.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Well by exemplary I mean that the central figure of each religion is in a sense an example for the followers of that religion to take after, and by sketchier I mean in terms of the moral or immoral behavior of these central figures, since as Sam Harris put it, Muhammad was a warlord rather than a hippie who got crucified or a monk who sat under a tree. So if a warlord is the central figure of a religion then that religion is going to be a greater challenge to reform.

Gotcha, yeah. 👆

Muhammad had a great respect for women, lmao!

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Btw, 8 women in Iran just arrested for...murder!!

Nah, jk, they attended a soccer match.

In Islam, you can't put it in her butt.

Originally posted by Robtard
In Islam, you can't put it in her butt.

That's okay, if you do something wrong just kill some non-believers.

Plus I mean, that butt thing sucks. If they mutilate her vagina...where else you gonna put it? These people hate everything.

Btw: woman in California arrested for busting into a Mosque and leaving bacon.

FunFact: Female genital mutilation (aka Female Circumcision) doesn't make the vagina unusable for sexual activity, it just makes the sex unpleasant for the woman.

Originally posted by Robtard
FunFact: Female genital mutilation (aka Female Circumcision) doesn't make the vagina unusable for sexual activity, it just makes the sex unpleasant for the woman.

That fact isn't fun, it's just horrifying.

Genital mutilation generally is horrifying, though FemaleGM isn't strictly an Islamic thing, it is widely practiced in some Islamic countries/cultures.

Then again, most boys born in the US get their foreskin removed and while that's physically less harmful than what's done to women in the more extreme cases (clitoral removal, labia removal and closing the extreme almost all the way), we're still loping off beneficial and healthy body parts without the person's consent.

If someone comes in here with the "but we remove wisdom teeth and appendixes", I swear to ****ing Odin I will go thermonuclear.

Plus I had my wisdom teeth removed and...I was sedated and stuff.

Something tells me they don't stick an IV in these women and pump in some pain killers or sedation before the mutilation begins.

Why aren't guys like you around to put guys like Zakir Naik in their place, who claims Islam is the only correct religion and others are wrong?

youtube.com/user/Drzakirchannel

youtube.com/watch?v=0S_A9ERJWN0

www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=zakir+naik+christian+vs+islam

www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=zakir+naik+non+bailable

www.google.co.in/search?ie=ISO-8859-1&q=zakir+naik&btnG=Search

www.quora.com/Why-is-it-that-no-religious-scholar-has-been-able-to-defeat-Dr-Zakir-Naik

You gotta give it to him though. He has one hell of a memory

It says why has no scholar been able to "defeat" him , who has he gone up against? Sam Harris? Douglas Murray?

Plus of course having a good memory is a good thing, didn't Muhammad teach that? I think the passage is something along the lines of "When you're away from home and out Warlording, pass the time by remembering your child bride". They didn't have photos in those days so they really had to have a keen memory to remember every detail about their child brides.

Originally posted by Surtur
It says why has no scholar been able to "defeat" him , who has he gone up against? Sam Harris? Douglas Murray?

Plus of course having a good memory is a good thing, didn't Muhammad teach that? I think the passage is something along the lines of "When you're away from home and out Warlording, pass the time by remembering your child bride". They didn't have photos in those days so they really had to have a keen memory to remember every detail about their child brides.

Originally posted by Surtur
It says why has no scholar been able to "defeat" him , who has he gone up against? Sam Harris? Douglas Murray?

Plus of course having a good memory is a good thing, didn't Muhammad teach that? I think the passage is something along the lines of "When you're away from home and out Warlording, pass the time by remembering your child bride". They didn't have photos in those days so they really had to have a keen memory to remember every detail about their child brides.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Why aren't guys like you around to put guys like Zakir Naik in their place, who claims Islam is the only correct religion and others are wrong?

youtube.com/user/Drzakirchannel

youtube.com/watch?v=0S_A9ERJWN0

www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=zakir+naik+christian+vs+islam

www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=zakir+naik+non+bailable

www.google.co.in/search?ie=ISO-8859-1&q=zakir+naik&btnG=Search

www.quora.com/Why-is-it-that-no-religious-scholar-has-been-able-to-defeat-Dr-Zakir-Naik

You gotta give it to him though. He has one hell of a memory

Considering religion is faith based (unless he can scientifically prove god and then prove that god gave us Islam as the final teaching?), that's like his opinion, man.

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Originally posted by Surtur
I seriously do not get this, this need to defend this religion..to make excuses for it, more than we have any other religion. What is it about this that makes that happen? Why is it people look at Islamaphobia as separate from a phobia of any other religion? Is there something I am missing out on? Am I not privy to some sort of mystical revelation others are privy to?

What is it that makes people do irrational things like bringing up the Crusades and stuff..in reference to what is going on currently? Why? Is there some kind of mass hypnosis? Is it magic?

What have we, as a species, been given by this specific religion, that makes us treat it this way? What is there to gain?

Surely there is some kind of secret I am just missing? Some revelation that will make all this make even a tiny bit of sense? I am not trying to be cruel, I legitimately want to know. Bestow on me some piece of knowledge..some bit of wisdom..that makes it legitimate to separate this religion from the others.

Blatantly obvious answer: Muslim's generally vote Democrat. 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering religion is faith based (unless he can scientifically prove god and then prove that god gave us Islam as the final teaching?), that's like his opinion, man.

Yes, what I said. Science can't prove god, therefore the belief of god is based on faith and therefore an opinion.