Originally posted by relentless1
Dooku would only be facing Anakin in this scenario, of course the two Jedi would pair off with there respective opponents... and yes Grevious was a non factor, Kenobi was barely trying when his disarmed Greivous and once he was done playing around with him he Force pushed him and knocked him senseless. Id call that a non factor.
Lol Dooku took them both on Solo (in the same ROTS fight you think is the only relevant fight for Skywalker here), and still stomped Kenobi.. How would getting help from another acclaimed ex-Sith Apprentice, and a Jedi killing machine save Kenobi exactly?
30 second 1 v1 Saber fight, then having to chase him around in a big action scene, and hurting his leg kicking Grievous, then being thrown around before eventually winning, isn't a non-factor. That's a ridiculous idea. Not to mention all of their TCW fights.
Seriously I don't even need to argue or bring up the fact that Maul and Kenobi are relatively equal at this point in time. But suffice to say, if you use that first fight in ROTS, but actually Add Maul and Grievous to Dooku's side, then team Dooku seriously stomps.
Im not trying to use that fight verbatim, I'm saying that Anakin by the time of ROTS was capable of taking Dooku down rather easily as he did. Kenobi is also capable of taking down Grevious rather easily as he also showed in that timeframe so adding Maul against these showings helps but the Jedi still would win
Originally posted by relentless1
Im not trying to use that fight verbatim, I'm saying that Anakin by the time of ROTS was capable of taking Dooku down rather easily as he did. Kenobi is also capable of taking down Grevious rather easily as he also showed in that timeframe so adding Maul against these showings helps but the Jedi still would win
Ah I see, so you're seeing it as Anakin V Dooku, and Kenobi V Grievous, both being stomps, and Maul has to try to help both.
Could happen that way I guess. But just as you say we know from ROTS that "Anakin was capable of taking down Dooku rather easily," well we also know that Dooku was capable of taking out Kenobi rather easily, whilst engaging both Skywalker and Kenobi solo.
So if anything like that happens again, then 3 on 1 is going to be too much for Ani. Heck 2 on 1 (Maul+Dooku vs Anakin), would likely be too much for him.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Where?
When they first fight with lightsabers Kenobi disarms Grievous rather easily despite the General having 4 lightsabers to 1, once the Clones arrive and Obi is through ****ing around he Force pushes Grievous away like a paper bag. Id say that a pretty definitive ass whoopin
Originally posted by relentless1
When they first fight with lightsabers Kenobi disarms Grievous rather easily despite the General having 4 lightsabers to 1, once the Clones arrive and Obi is through ****ing around he Force pushes Grievous away like a paper bag. Id say that a pretty definitive ass whoopin
Kenobi's defenses were being overloaded by Grievous's assault. He managed to turn the momentum by deepening his connection with the Force and slicing off one of Grievous's arms.
Landing a Force push is all well and good but it didn't do jack shit to him and unless you're trying to argue Obi Wan's TK ( or anyone's for that matter ) is faster then anybody else's it's likely he only managed to tag Grievous because he caught him off guard as we know he's capable of dodging Force blasts from the miniseries.
lol Obi Wans defenses were nowhere near being overloaded; watch the fight in ROTS again, he almost casually takes off two of Grevious' hands with slight movements, clearly not the movements of somebody who is being overwhelmed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj49nsG4ruo
also when he force pushes him they are eyeball to eyeball; he didn't catch him off guard at all, thats like saying I caught you off guard by kicking you in the chest in the middle of a cage fight, if you aren't ready for that then thats on you
Originally posted by relentless1
lol Obi Wans defenses were nowhere near being overloadedalso when he force pushes him they are eyeball to eyeball; he didn't catch him off guard at all, thats like saying I caught you off guard by kicking you in the chest in the middle of a cage fight, if you aren't ready for that then thats on you
"Grievous, snarling fury, ramped up the intensity and velocity of his attacks—sixteen per second, eighteen—until finally, at twenty strikes per second, he overloaded Obi-Wan's defense." - Revenge of the Sith.
Thought you were mentioning a passage from the novel. He landed a push on him when they were engaged in a saber lock so yeah, Grievous doesn't have much of an opportunity to avoid it. Again though, it didn't do any noticeable damage to him.
Originally posted by relentless1
lol Obi Wans defenses were nowhere near being overloadedalso when he force pushes him they are eyeball to eyeball; he didn't catch him off guard at all, thats like saying I caught you off guard by kicking you in the chest in the middle of a cage fight, if you aren't ready for that then thats on you
"Grievous, snarling fury, ramped up the intensity and velocity of his attacks—sixteen per second, eighteen—until finally, at twenty strikes per second, he overloaded Obi-Wan's defense." - Revenge of the Sith.
Obi Wan barely managed to shift gears and had to put his life at risk to accomplish the maneuver.
"The blade winked out of existence a hairbreadth before it would have burned through Obi-Wan's forehead." - Revenge of the Sith.
Thought you were mentioning a passage from the novel. He landed a push on him when they were engaged in a saber lock so yeah, Grievous doesn't have much of an opportunity to avoid it. Again though, it didn't do any noticeable damage to him.