Man who shot and killed 3 teens who broke into his house, not charged.

Started by Surtur8 pages
Originally posted by Robtard
I think the issue here was there malicious intent towards the shooter or people in his house.

How does he go about finding out whether there is malicious intent without putting his life at risk if it turns out they do indeed have malicious intent?

The issue is that all the person who lived there knew was that some strangers had busted into his house. You refer to them as thieves, but we've had people in this country commit murder over a cell phone. You never know how far people are willing to go.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Tell us more about how this was an execution rather than self-defense.

I see what triggered you now, it was my use of the word "execution". You should know that the word doesn't imply wrongdoing, eg certain states can execute people legally. 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
I see what triggered you now, it was my use of the word "execution". You should know that the word doesn't imply wrongdoing, eg certain states can execute people legally. 🙂

This is true, but self defense isn't an example of execution.

Originally posted by NemeBro
My eBadassery translates to irlBadassery a billionfold.

The two people here who I think actually would act if someone invaded their home are Imp with his military training and guns and you, likely via bludgeoning until unconcious and then sexual molestation.

eWarriors like Silent would lock themselves inside their bathrooms, shitting himself; ready to offer his rectum at a moment's notice in exchange for not being harmed.

Kurk would just run to his parent's room, some urine may or may not escape during his journey.

Originally posted by Surtur
This is true, but self defense isn't an example of execution.

Execution can also mean "putting to death", which is what happened here. Please tell me your feelz didn't get damaged as well over my use of the word.

Originally posted by Robtard
The two people here who I think actually would act if someone invaded their home are Imp with his military training and guns and you, likely via bludgeoning until unconcious and then sexual molestation.

eWarriors like Silent would lock themselves inside their bathrooms, shiiting himself; ready to offer his rectum at a moment's notice in exchange for not being harmed.

Kurk would just run to his parent's room, some urine may or may not escape during his journey.

So what would you do?

Originally posted by Robtard
Execution can also mean "putting to death", which is what happened here. Please tell me your feelz didn't did damaged as well over my use of the word.

My feelings weren't damaged, I was simply telling you calling it an execution really does not sound right in this context. During the St. Valentine's Day massacre they lined up the people against a wall and then opened fire on them. That is more like an execution than shooting someone in self defense.

Originally posted by Robtard
The two people here who I think actually would act if someone invaded their home are Imp with his military training and guns and you, likely via bludgeoning until unconcious and then sexual molestation.

eWarriors like Silent would lock themselves inside their bathrooms, shiiting himself; ready to offer his rectum at a moment's notice in exchange for not being harmed.

Kurk would just run to his parent's room, some urine may or may not escape during his journey.

I possess no firearms, and while I do have skill in martial-arts, it's a last resort for if I was cornered.

If time allowed it, I'd just call 911 and jump out a window.

See, I practice duty to retreat, but support castle-doctrine/stand-your-ground.

Roundhouse them all.

Well, words can have more than one meaning and usage.

Rob would just let them sleep with his wife in exchange for his well-being. That or he'd drop to his knees if you know what I mean.

Seriously, wtf is up with you Trumpers and your "cuck" thing fascination? So odd.

Originally posted by Robtard
I see what triggered you now, it was my use of the word "execution". You should know that the word doesn't imply wrongdoing, eg certain states can execute people legally. 🙂

Accusing me a being triggered, how original.

Originally posted by Robtard
Roundhouse them all.

Well, words can have more than one meaning and usage.

If I owned a gun I'd do the same thing this person did.

Originally posted by Robtard
The two people here who I think actually would act if someone invaded their home are Imp with his military training and guns and you, likely via bludgeoning until unconcious and then sexual molestation.

eWarriors like Silent would lock themselves inside their bathrooms, shitting himself; ready to offer his rectum at a moment's notice in exchange for not being harmed.

Kurk would just run to his parent's room, some urine may or may not escape during his journey.

LOL!!!

Originally posted by Surtur
If I owned a gun I'd do the same thing this person did.

Cool story bro?

Originally posted by Robtard
Cool story bro?

A story about taking a life in self defense is cool to you? Interesting.

Originally posted by Surtur
A story about taking a life in self defense is cool to you? Interesting.

Would you rather he insulted you or claimed you're triggered. those do seem to be his favorite tactics of late.

I've created another pairing. <3

#madskillz

Originally posted by Robtard
Seriously, wtf is up with you Trumpers and your "cuck" thing fascination? So odd.
You are a cuckold by definition Rob. Embrace it. 🙂

The search history on your browser is probably hilarious

Originally posted by Silent Master
At no point in that audio does he state that the intruders didn't try and attack or threaten him before he shot. so what proof do you have that it wasn't self-defense?

Very beginning, 911 dispatcher confirms back (because recording had not yet started) that they were trying to break into the house and he open fire on them.

Also, it says right there in the video description that the weapons were found on their bodies, not before.

Look....I just beat you at your own game. You're not even talking about the topic.

Originally posted by Robtard
He tried that same time-waster-troll tactic on me as well, I advised he read the story as it seems he didn't.

It's so weird...I do not understand why he wants to argue with me. We agree on his point. I think we should be able to make Swiss cheese out of home invaders. Many people do not.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well wait man this is an entirely different question than what you originally asked, don't you agree? Like I said, I agree that if you clearly know people do not mean you any harm it is wrong.

I disagree. That's exactly my question: can you kill home invaders when you're not being physically threatened? Some states, you can. Some states, you can't.

Originally posted by Surtur
It was not clear in the article that this man was aware they were making no attempt to harm them or that they posed no danger.

We cannot use the "well, I was ignorant of this one particular case" argument. This case was national news and has made the internet rounds. Anyone can alleviate their ignorance on this case but looking up anything related to it.

Regardless, there is still the question I posed in the OP: is it okay to kill intruders? Was the man right or wrong to kill them?

Obviously, I want people to explain their reasoning.

Originally posted by Surtur
How did they break in? The articles do not seem to say. I ask because there is a comment from the dailycaller article that says this:

"The original reports were that these guys broke into the house, via a glass door, with brass knuckles and a knife. How is it NOT self defense. And I can tell you, I would not disarm until the police were actually outside my room and have the house cleared."

If they smashed through a glass door to get in..I can understand why the guy freaked out and shot without allowing them to get close enough to potentially do him harm.

And another place also indicates that those weapons were found on them, not armed with them, meaning, they put them away and the shooter had no way to know they had them.

Unless the shooter isn't stating that they threatened, verbally? It just so happens that he never made that claim: I cannot find that anywhere.

Originally posted by Surtur
This is true it is vague as to what specifically went down. Having now listened to the 911 call, he goes on to say he didn't even get a good look at them, so it sounds like they broke into his house and he panicked and shot at them.

Yes, that's exactly what happened and his own words state that (he didn't say panicked). There are several news stories on this and other than an off the record threat of violent from them, nothing happened that we know of from the reports and 911 call OTHER THAN he heard them break in, he got his gun, and shot them immediately after he saw them.

Originally posted by Surtur
I guess the question would then be if he should have risked his own life by waiting, since if it turned out they were armed or something that could have given them time to use their weapons.

See, this is where you and I agree. I don't know the answer. Still sad to see loss of any human life... 🙁

But they were breaking in and so they knew the risks, especially in Oklahoma, that they might get shot. It is something all people from around here know: trespass, get shot. Break in, get shot.

They wanted a quick buck. I knew kids who would do this stuff when I was in high school. They use it for weed, drugs, and beer.