Originally posted by Robtard
And there's that Surutr deflection. All is complete.
Just reminding you of reality, my bad.
Genius, I said yesterday that this Syria tragedy/travesty is a political distraction, Putin will condemn the attacks and then business will go on as usual.
Genius, this is about what you would do if Trump criticized Putin.
If Trump doesn't say anything, you'll say he is beholden to Putin. If he does? You'd..still say that lol.
Just send in the Dragonborn and the Middle East will be pacified.
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All joking aside, the strike was the right thing to do for several reasons. Other than Syria committing a war crime, the U.S. needed to send a message to the world (especially N.Korea) that we're back and we won't tolerate these kind of actions. Too long have we sat idly by and watched mass murder committed by ISIS, Assad and can't remember the name of that organization in Africa. How can we claim to be a light and hope of the world when we watch people be massacred?
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
and can't remember the name of that organization in Africa.
Boko Haram?
If this attack does not lead to a political discussion about deposing Assad, then I'll continue to be dissapointed in how the conflict is being handled by everyone involved (specifically EU and Russia).
Bently, thanks for reminding me the name.
Assad does need to be removed and tried before the Hague otherwise they'll be another failed state. The new leader of Syria of whoever it may be can legitimately claim that the country is willing to follow the rule of law.
It's not just that Obama was weak, but the EU too refused to do anything about it. The Middle East is nothing more than an ocean of blood. Sure the UN has condemnation resolutions and we have a few thousand troops in Iraq to advise, but the blood flows like a river.
Has the world become used to seeing mass death on a large scale?
I will agree with people that yeah, Trump is flat out hypocritical over this given his tweets.
At the same time I've seen the pictures of the dead little kids from this chemical attack, and the stories of how they died. So I agree with Bentley..Assad needs to go.
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Assad does need to be removed and tried before the Hague otherwise they'll be another failed state. The new leader of Syria of whoever it may be can legitimately claim that the country is willing to follow the rule of law.
He needs to be executed imo.
Has the world become used to seeing mass death on a large scale?
Terrorist attacks do seem to be happening more frequently. Though it is possible that is merely because they are getting a lot more focus, as opposed to an actual increase in the numbers.
I like Assad. He's an educated man, a doctor actually, some say he's one of the most highly educated presidents in the world. The man is pro-secular and overall against the islamism which many of the Syrian rebels follow.
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
It's not just that Obama was weak, but the EU too refused to do anything about it.
EU did show some heavy limitations when reacting to this. In France the government really wanted to engage in a coalition to depose Assad, but it never came to fruition. Sure, we could've jumped alone to the battlefield, but we are engaged in several african campaigns, carrying ground operations over Syria without international cooperation would be technically very challenging and also political suicide.
Arguably the UK had good reasons to avoid entering the conflict (their participation in the Irak war left a bitter taste in their mind, Brexit was showing the internal fissures of the country). The rest of the European armies would only work in the basis of heavy cooperation with each other and that's where the Union's decision making utterly failed.
So this is something I thought was worth sharing, everybody should read what this man has to say:
Syrian chemical attack survivor has an incredible message for Trump and anti-Trump protesters
“I was overwhelmed,” Eid said. “I felt grateful for President Trump. I felt grateful for the United States. I felt grateful for each and every person who lobbied and called, kept on talking until someone actually listened.”
CNN host Brooke Baldwin asked Eid whether he agreed critics of Trump who say the president is being hypocritical by defending Syrians in once instance and temporarily refusing to let Syrian refugees enter the country.
“With all due respect,” Eid said. “With all due respect, I didn’t see each and every person who was demonstrating after the travel ban. I didn’t see you three days ago when people were gassed to death, when civilians were gassed to death. I didn’t see you in 2013, when 1,400 people were gassed to death. I didn’t see you raising your voice against President Obama’s inaction in Syria that led us refugees, that made us refugees get kicked out of Syria.”
“If you really care about refugees, if you really care about helping us, please help us stay in our country,” Eid continued. “We don’t want to come to the United States. We want to stay in our country. We want to stay in our country, with all due respect. This is hypocrisy. If you really care, if you really care, help us stay in our country.”
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Originally posted by Surtur
So this is something I thought was worth sharing, everybody should read what this man has to say:Syrian chemical attack survivor has an incredible message for Trump and anti-Trump protesters
[b]“I was overwhelmed,” Eid said. “I felt grateful for President Trump. I felt grateful for the United States. I felt grateful for each and every person who lobbied and called, kept on talking until someone actually listened.”
CNN host Brooke Baldwin asked Eid whether he agreed critics of Trump who say the president is being hypocritical by defending Syrians in once instance and temporarily refusing to let Syrian refugees enter the country.
“With all due respect,” Eid said. “With all due respect, I didn’t see each and every person who was demonstrating after the travel ban. I didn’t see you three days ago when people were gassed to death, when civilians were gassed to death. I didn’t see you in 2013, when 1,400 people were gassed to death. I didn’t see you raising your voice against President Obama’s inaction in Syria that led us refugees, that made us refugees get kicked out of Syria.”
“If you really care about refugees, if you really care about helping us, please help us stay in our country,” Eid continued. “We don’t want to come to the United States. We want to stay in our country. We want to stay in our country, with all due respect. This is hypocrisy. If you really care, if you really care, help us stay in our country.”
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Here is a video of the interview:
Look at the CNN anchors face lol. She can't STAND that someone is praising Trump and also destroying their narrative on refugees. She even tries to pivot and show a clip of Hilary Clinton, but it hilariously fails.
I read that Iran and Russia just had a joint meeting, both asking Trump to leave Syria alone. I personally hope Trump doesn't back off, it will make him look weak, if he does.
I'm hoping this escalates into a full on war. I'm glad the neocons are taking over. Our end goal needs to be obliterate China while we still have global military dominance. In less than 10 years from now, they are predicted to be about equivalent to us, and then beyond that they will surpass us. We can't let that happen, but it probably will. Russia is useless.
Originally posted by vansonbee
I read that Iran and Russia just had a joint meeting, both asking Trump to leave Syria alone. I personally hope Trump doesn't back off, it will make him look weak, if he does.I'm hoping this escalates into a full on war. I'm glad the neocons are taking over. Our end goal needs to be obliterate China while we still have global military dominance. In less than 10 years from now, they are predicted to be about equivalent to us, and then beyond that they will surpass us. We can't let that happen, but it probably will. Russia is useless.
Originally posted by carthage
Trump is right to avenge those dead Syrian children, and hopefully he can begin the process of avenging all of the dead women in Children from the Iraq/Afghanistan wars. We must show the world we are the beacon of hope
Did you not hear? It's a plot by Putin to distract from the Trump/Russia story.
To be fair at this point..Trump could call in a nuclear strike on Moscow and people would still find a way to try to say it was a ruse to make people think he has no dubious connections to Putin.