Hamill to Johnson: "I fundamentally disagree with virtually everything..."

If DE was the only comic, sure (although the Chosen One prophecy is still destroyed). Then they made Dark Empire II and Empire's End, which ruined it.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
If DE was the only comic, sure (although the Chosen One prophecy is still destroyed). Then they made Dark Empire II and Empire's End, which ruined it.

EE was crap, I admit, but I didn't mind DE II. Still better than the ST, though 👆

Originally posted by Azronger
Palpatine in DE redeemed his embarassing death in the OT. DE >>>>>>> ST

Not that its remotely the same as what the st did given that
a. DE was made before the prequel trilogy

b. De didn't destroy luke's order or the new republic

And anyway the eu leadership had changed from that era long before disney came into power.

So ant's just deflecting here

Anakin's redemption was never about killing Sheev but rather saving Luke. And it predates the PT so one can't fault it for undermining the Chosen One prophecy. The bigger problem with DE is Luke turning to the dark side.

Originally posted by ares834
Anakin's redemption was never about killing Sheev but rather saving Luke.

Originally posted by ares834
Anakin's redemption was never about killing Sheev but rather saving Luke. And it predates the PT so one can't fault it for undermining the Chosen One prophecy. The bigger problem with DE is Luke turning to the dark side.

I'm with ares in that I'm Kinda afraid what they're going to do with Luke. Which I never thought would be an issue prior to this teaser.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

Once again, I find it amusing the biggest critics of Star Wars films are Star Wars fans.

That actually makes sense. It's the same with comic book films.

Originally posted by ares834
Uh, yeah I am. That's absolute shit and goes completely against what the character was in the OT. I'm hoping that he intends to create a better order of Jedi or something (and not this gray bullshit) but we'll see.

Yeah this movie's going to be shit. I honestly don't give a shit about the ST anymore. Just hoping for some good spinoff movies in the Clone Wars and Empire era.

Wow people are really triggered.

What's sad is that unlike TFA it's in a position to break the mold. Yet folks whine anyway. 😬

Really not triggered. I was the first person to call TFA what it was "garbage." This movie seems like it'll be garbage to.

I'll be very happy if it's NOT garbage. But why hold expectations that will probably disappoint you?

Nah. As long as they make a few books with Thrawn level quality I'm happy.

Uhuh, only a mad bro would decide the movie is shit having only seen a teaser.

The butthurt flowing through you being guaranteed to ruin your viewing experience and you nitpick for flaws to justify your anger. Pitiable. 🙁

*Shrug* Can't help how I feel.

And I feel this movie will be more garbage PC/OT fanboy pandering.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
How? Luke tried to create a new Jedi Order and it failed, and this changed his perspective. It's not as if the character is not allowed to have growth. 😬

Characters can certainly grow. The problem is when it's all off screen and you turn the hero into a mopey depressive failure.

The directors aren't in a position to cover 30 years of Luke's growth, as they weren't for Han & Leia. Nor is it necessary to understand the character's motivations. But it would fundamentally make no sense for them to be in the same place now as they where three decades ago.

And the hero as it turns out, doesn't always win, and can indeed experience a crisis of faith. That's called realism. 👆

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The directors aren't in a position to cover 30 years of Luke's growth, as they weren't for Han & Leia. Nor is it necessary to understand the character's motivations. But it would fundamentally make no sense for them to be in the same place now as they where three decades ago.

That's fine. But then they shouldn't undermine the characters like they seem to be doing with Luke or completely undo all character growth as they did with Han.

Also these are movies not the real world. Having the hero utterly fail is completely unfulfilling and it hurts the previous films.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
And yet the premise of tfa makes it so that the characters were in the exact same place they were 30 years ago

Nailed it. 👆

In what respect. 😂

If your referring to OT style setting that's just changing the goal posts kek.

Agreeing with someone is changing the goal posts now. 😂