Galactus and Rune King Thor would win. Galactus easily killed a Mad Celestial while shoving another aside. They were only able to defeat him by merging to one composite being and attacking Galactus with a blast at least 3 times more powerful than any one of them on their own could perform. Had Galactus not let up his attack, I believe he would have killed them all.
I think Galactus with the Power Gem would be more than enough to snuff out the Fourth Celestial Host.
They'd probably wreck the 4th hosts shit to be honest. Thor just skyrocketed in power, and given that he'll now have access to the power gems full potential given he has mimirs wisdom, he'll use it with Thanos level proficiency.
Galactus with 4 planets was already wrecking celestial ass also, so I see it as the 4th hosts fight to lose.
Originally posted by Supergirl_Pr1me
But no on-panel feats from a canonical story arc dictate what you're arguing?
I've posted a scan of Galactus, who had recently consumed 4 worlds, easily killing one Mad Celestial whilst manhandling another. Give him the World Seed and team him up with Rune King Thor with the Power Gem and the NecroSword, and it doesn't look good for the Celestials.
I'll post it again. Remember, it was stated that these Mad Celestials were as powerful as the Fourth Host... 😉
Originally posted by Supergirl_Pr1me
No, no, no. You said that Galactus, specifically the one in the scan above, could have defeated all four Mad Celestials. Please show me the on-panel canonical feats where he defeats all four of them.
Obviously it didn't happen, because he stopped attacking, but if you apply some logic to the situation, it's pretty clear who was dominating their encounter before they merged together. Galactus doesn't fight if he doesn't need to, and even warned them to go back to their own universe or they would have to face him in combat. They chose to attack, he immediately killed one with a pretty casual looking eyebeam, and while grabbing another by the face, and shoving him aside.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Obviously it didn't happen, because he stopped attacking, but if you apply some logic to the situation, it's pretty clear who was dominating their encounter before they merged together. Galactus doesn't fight if he doesn't need to, and even warned them to go back to their own universe or they would have to face him in combat. They chose to attack, he immediately killed one with a pretty casual looking eyebeam, and while grabbing another by the face, and shoving him aside.
You can't show me Galactus defeating four Mad Celestials but I can show you the writer, who wrote that entire story-arc, saying that he couldn't have.
Whose opinion, mine or yours, do you believe is more truthful?
Originally posted by Supergirl_Pr1me
You have no evidence to validate your claim. Therefore, your logic, or lack-of, derives from a biased viewpoint. It is completely dismissible.You can't show me Galactus defeating four Mad Celestials but I can show you the writer, who wrote that entire story-arc, saying that he couldn't have.
Whose opinion, mine or yours, do you believe is more truthful?
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Since when are writer's offhand statements used as proof over what happens on-panel? The fact remains that Galactus was able to kill one Mad Celestial with little effort, while dismissing another completely. What would have happened if he felt he hadn't made his message clear, and never let up his attack?
And that is a fact.
Oh, and it is common-knowledge that the longer Galactus fights, the more energy he consumes. After breaking through Thanos' shields he had to eat another planet because it depleted him of his energy. Just because he was capable of destroying one single Celestial doesn't mean that he was capable of replicating the feat three more times due to the previously established principal. This is just absurd and silly.
Originally posted by Supergirl_Pr1me
They described what occurred on-panel. They also have direct-ties with the individuals who drew what occurred on-panel. Their opinions override your own by default.And that is a fact.
Oh, and it is common-knowledge that the longer Galactus fights, the more energy he consumes. After breaking through Thanos' shields he had to eat another planet because it depleted him of his energy. Just because he was capable of destroying one single Celestial doesn't mean that he was capable of replicating the feat three more times due to the previously established principal. This is just absurd and silly.
What they've shown, and what they intended to show don't add up. You're claiming Hickman stated that the Mad Celestials didn't need to merge together to beat Galactus; however, what was shown was that Galactus easily overpowered two of them with minimal effort.
Yeah, it's common knowledge that Galactus on average is hungry and/or needs to replenish his energy. However, the Galactus in the Celestial fight had prepared for the encounter by consuming 4 planets. The result was one dead Celestial within seconds of the opening bell. This thread is using that same Galactus who ate 4 planets and giving him the World Seed...then teaming him up with Rune King Thor in possession of the Power Gem and the NecroSword against the Host of Celestials who, if we're going to bring statements into this, the Mad Celestials' power was compared to.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
What they've shown, and what they intended to show don't add up. You're claiming Hickman stated that the Mad Celestials didn't need to merge together to beat Galactus; however, what was shown was that Galactus easily overpowered two of them with minimal effort.Yeah, it's common knowledge that Galactus on average is hungry and/or needs to replenish his energy. However, the Galactus in the Celestial fight had prepared for the encounter by consuming 4 planets. The result was one dead Celestial within seconds of the opening bell. This thread is using that same Galactus who ate 4 planets and giving him the World Seed...then teaming him up with Rune King Thor in possession of the Power Gem and the NecroSword against the Host of Celestials who, if we're going to bring statements into this, the Mad Celestials' power was compared to.
You stated that Galan could have beaten four Mad Celestials if they hadn't merged, without the World-Seed. The only problem is:
a) The writer disagrees with you.
b) Nothing supports your claim.
So what's the point of even debating with you if you believe that you're free to make things up as you go along? You're really biased.
Originally posted by Supergirl_Pr1me
Nothing insinuated that Galactus overpowered them with minimal effort. That's nothing but you speculating, nothing more.You stated that Galan could have beaten four Mad Celestials if they hadn't merged, without the World-Seed. The only problem is:
a) The writer disagrees with you.
b) Nothing supports your claim.So what's the point of even debating with you if you believe that you're free to make things up as you go along? You're really biased.
Post evidence of a single Mad Celestial able to compete with Galactus at this level. Hickman's statements means nothing if they are not proven on-panel.
Thus far, the only on-panel showing is Galactus one-shotting a Celestial to death, and shoving aside another, while the other two do nothing in the background.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I wonder if galactus can consume gems
I was wondering the same. Even if he couldn't, someone with Galactus' level of intricate knowledge of the universe and cosmic awareness should be able to use the Infinity Gems to their fullest potential. That's why I think he wouldn't need Thor's help or a boost from the World Seed/planet-eating in this fight if he had the Power Gem.