Rune King Thor & Galactus vs The Fourth Celestial Host

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Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Post evidence of a single Mad Celestial able to compete with Galactus at this level. Hickman's statements means nothing if they are not proven on-panel.

Thus far, the only on-panel showing is Galactus one-shotting a Celestial to death, and shoving aside another, while the other two do nothing in the background.


All we know from the evidence at hand is that Galactus can defeat a single Celestial, nothing more. Because of that, Hickman clear's up what you otherwise do not understand, that Galactus cannot defeat more than one Celestial.

Originally posted by Supergirl_Pr1me
All we know from the evidence at hand is that Galactus can defeat a single Celestial, nothing more. Because of that, Hickman clear's up what you otherwise do not understand, that Galactus cannot defeat more than one Celestial.

So you have nothing to support your opinion nor Hickman's claim. Awesome.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
So you have nothing to support your opinion nor Hickman's claim. Awesome.

My opinion is supported by Hickman and indirectly supported from your own due its lack of supporting evidence.

Originally posted by Supergirl_Pr1me
My opinion is supported by Hickman and indirectly supported from your own due its lack of supporting evidence.

They did sweet phuck all to him before they merged. Galactus even gave them the first move. 😂

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
[B]They did sweet phuck all to him before they merged. Galactus even gave them the first move. 😂

Why do you keep posting scans that we have already seen?

Also, you misinterpret the scene. Galactus knew that he was out-matched. The Celestials knew this as well because they clearly state: "Leave or live not to serve your purpose." But you somehow, magically, missed that, correct?

It's rather clearly that Galactus was outmatched regardless of whether or not they would have merged --this is implied before they even did so-- which is exactly as Mr. Hickman has told us.

Geez, even your own evidence is being used against you now. 😆

So now anytime one character makes a threat against another, it automatically makes that character more powerful? Guess superheroes everywhere are screwed if there are aggressive foul-mouthed villains out and about.

The Celestial who threatened Galactus was the same one he killed! It even tried to bluff Galactus into leaving and lied about their intentions concerning the 616 universe to avoid confrontation. How did you magically miss that? 😂

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
So now anytime one character makes a threat against another, it automatically makes that character more powerful? Guess superheroes everywhere are screwed if there are aggressive foul-mouthed villains out and about.

The Celestial who threatened Galactus was the same one he killed! It even tried to bluff Galactus into leaving and lied about their intentions concerning the 616 universe to avoid confrontation. How did you magically miss that? 😂


You don't understand the basis of story-telling. The Celestials implied that Galan would lose unless he left and he didn't contradict them. Mr.Hickman doesn't contradict them. The only individual who does, is yourself. You're clearly wrong.

"A WORLD EATER/PLANET KILLER."

"IT SKEWS PROBABILITIES."

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Originally posted by Eternal Idol
"A WORLD EATER/PLANET KILLER."

"IT SKEWS PROBABILITIES."

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All that means is that they acknowledge that Galactus eats planets to survive, since, in all likeliness, such a being exists in every Marvel Universe.

The latter context suggests that such an encounter was unexpected, "It skews probabilities," and the many statements thereafter; such as "Unexpected," et cetera, but nothing that they couldn't handle.

You've literally lost in every aspect of this debate. I assume that you know this but you're being willfully ignorance for the sake of being arrogant, which are both poor qualities of a debater.

You're well-spoken, but clearly your reading comprehension is lacking, so I'll break it down for you:

The first Celestial not only acknowledges Galactus' cosmic role, but also his power and capability. The second Celestial acknowledges Galactus' interference could sabotage their plans. Galactus' presence, unexpected or not, wouldn't "skew probabilities" if he was no threat to them.

The first Celestial Galactus warns Galactus to leave or die, and lies about their intent in 616 to encourage Galactus to leave. Galactus dismisses the threat, reveals he knows their true intent in 616, and makes it clear he will fight them if they proceed.

The third Celestial goes apeshit and orders the others to kill Galactus, once again, confirming he is a threat to their plans. He prepares an attack, and is immediately blasted by Galactus, while he crushes the life out of the first Celestial.

Galactus halts his attack as the Celestials look upon their dead comrade. The only thing that makes sense to bring Galactus pause is that it was made clear he was their superior and they should heed his warning to return to their universe.

The Celestials had no choice but to merge with each other and their dead ally to defeat Galactus, an ability which surprised even him, likely because 616 Celestials have never before demonstrated the ability to merge and combine powers.

You haven't a leg to stand on except "Hickman said...", which doesn't hold any weight considering what Hickman claimed isn't what was depicted in this encounter...which come to think of it, is truly arrogant. He won't admit his creations would have lost otherwise, even though Galactus clearly dominated them before they merged.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
You're well-spoken, but clearly your reading comprehension is lacking, so I'll break it down for you:

The first Celestial not only acknowledges Galactus' cosmic role, but also his power and capability. The second Celestial acknowledges Galactus' interference could sabotage their plans. Galactus' presence, unexpected or not, wouldn't "skew probabilities" if he was no threat to them.

The first Celestial Galactus warns Galactus to leave or die, and lies about their intent in 616 to encourage Galactus to leave. Galactus dismisses the threat, reveals he knows their true intent in 616, and makes it clear he will fight them if they proceed.

The third Celestial goes apeshit and orders the others to kill Galactus, once again, confirming he is a threat to their plans. He prepares an attack, and is immediately blasted by Galactus, while he crushes the life out of the first Celestial.

Galactus halts his attack as the Celestials look upon their dead comrade. The only thing that makes sense to bring Galactus pause is that it was made clear he was their superior and they should heed his warning to return to their universe.

The Celestials had no choice but to merge with each other and their dead ally to defeat Galactus, an ability which surprised even him, likely because 616 Celestials have never before demonstrated the ability to merge and combine powers.

You haven't a leg to stand on except "Hickman said...", which doesn't hold any weight considering what Hickman claimed isn't what was depicted in this encounter...which come to think of it, is truly arrogant. He won't admit his creations would have lost otherwise, even though Galactus clearly dominated them before they merged.


This is a horrible interpretation of said events, regardless, I'll try to explain this to you in laments terms.

The green Celestial acknowledges Galactus' position within the Universe as a planet-eater, he says absolutely nothing about power, you simply made that part up.

The red Celestial states that such an event was unexpected and unforeseen, in other-words; they did not expect to come across a planet eater in the middle of their plans, which is why he states that 'it skews probabilities.' But even so, the Celestials and Galan acknowledge that it doesn't matter. Which is why the green Celestial threatens him. He has two choices, Galan can either leave or die.

The Celestials of this world became convinced they were gods and attempted to conquer the Multiverse by use of the Bridge, which Galan knew so they had no choice but to exterminate him.

At no point did the Mad Celestials ever reference Galactus' power, not once, whatsoever.

It is also never stated, not once, that the Celestials had no choice but to merge.

But that does leave us with one question, why did they merge?

Because separately, he would have caused them serious damage. But could he have defeated them?

So we have concluded that the Mad Celestials never felt threatened from Galan and that they were never worried about his power, not once. Nor was it implied or stated that they 'had no choice but to merge'. They simply did so to make destroying Galan that much easier.

Who cares what hickman intended, we go by panel feats