Originally posted by Ambient👆
This forum is still quite buggy on any mobile device or is it only on IOS; you can't quote or post pic (attach option). 7+ or ipad pro 🙁 , anyone else having problem with this?@ Phil - your right, check the scan they where not on a planet at all, more like an asteroid debri.
Anyho! Is all.
His discussion with Air-Walker [and turning his body into a black hole] happened light-years away [as the scans attest] after he had already fought Ravenous and destroyed the planet.
Anyway, you can't quote me because of my username, you can only use quick-quote which takes my whole post. I've already sent the request to change it, but the administrator is AWOL.
I mean just in energy output Surfer is gonna come out on top.
Black holes, blowing up planets etc. Like, as much as there is debate about a fight between Surfer/Thor/Supes, Surfers main area of expertise is energy and when you remove god-blast his feats generally stand above the others.
Terrax, BB also rank pretty high up though. Closer to Thor and Supes than in basically any other category you would compare them.
Obviously Cyclops is last. The visor-less blast is powerful and all, but even that doesn't quite seem up there with Torch going all out with his supernova- like when he got stuck in the Negative Zone and went all out on Annihilus' troops.
Originally posted by AmbientI won't change the whole name, just the special 'i character in it, and replace it with the normal letter.
Figures.. still can't load pic, don't know why that is???Wouldn't change the name dough .
I don't know about the attach option, I've never posted on the forum from anything other than laptop/PC. Just checked, and it works on them.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
That's certainly one way to describe it....😕
Originally posted by Ambient
👆 👆 and away!
Originally posted by abhilegend
Also back on topic, what is omitted from Surfer "black hole" creating blast is that Ravenous and the seekers survived the same blast and came out of the same black hole.That's why space cheese is irrelevant. If Surfer had even koed Ravenous with that blast, I could find it impressive. As it is, its another smokescreen with little value in terms of relative power levels.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
I mean just in energy output Surfer is gonna come out on top.Black holes, blowing up planets etc. Like, as much as there is debate about a fight between Surfer/Thor/Supes, Surfers main area of expertise is energy and when you remove god-blast his feats generally stand above the others.
Really? Then how is it that his energy blasts do shit all against pretty much any named character. Hulk has waded through his energy blasts several times, Thor has outright no sold it twice and the less we talk about his encounters with Thanos the better. Even characters who are described as less powerful than him have waded through his blasts.
It's same CBR argument for Gladiator, just because he destroyed some planets and created a black hole, he should be on top.
Terrax, BB also rank pretty high up though. Closer to Thor and Supes than in basically any other category you would compare them.
Black bolt I agree, Terrax is just a chump though.
Obviously Cyclops is last. The visor-less blast is powerful and all, but even that doesn't quite seem up there with Torch going all out with his supernova- like when he got stuck in the Negative Zone and went all out on Annihilus' troops.
Agreed.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What's so impressive about that? Some random seekers tanked the same attack.
Originally posted by Ambient
A casual energy discharge resulting in a black hole creation is what makes it impressive. There was no seeker's present during that feat and was even explained as why. They couldn't track them after Surfer nab's AW because of the energy discharge he release that prevented the seeker's from tracking therefore following them.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/32289109/Annihilation_-_Silver_Surfer_001-017.jpg.html
If you go by space cheese, its impressive. When you look at it as how characters interacted, its pretty much irrelevant.
Preface: they all have great energy showings, so this ranking involves some hair-splitting, imho ...
1. Thor - godblast ability + dat hamma.
2. Surfer - energy is his thing, but he's on his own, ie, no hamma.
3. Superman - his specialty is melee (and would be #1 in that category).
Not motivated to rank the rest, sorry, though I could see Black Bolt as #4.
Originally posted by krisblazeHe 'detonated' it into a blackhole, if that helps.
I always assumed that he detonated airwalkers body.Whatever that entails.
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This is pretty much matter manipulation, though, so I personally wouldn't put it in the 'energy blast' category. It's like saying the potency of Firestorm's blasts are by how he turns paper into steel.
Surfer could always create black holes. That's no mistery. But it doesn't take great energy output to create a black hole. You just need to pressure matter down to the Schwarzschild radius and somehow keep it stable (a fiction plot device).
In other fiction like Star Trek movie 2009, a black hole was created by a small device made by humanoid beings ( technology).
Originally posted by krisblaze
I always assumed that he detonated airwalkers body.Whatever that entails.
Originally posted by psycho gundamHe's right, though. Black holes aren't about 'how much energy is expelled' but about compression/density. You can compress a car into a blackhole, if you have the power to manipulate matter. Randomly shooting energy won't create a blackhole.
^ You should apply for a desk spot on Fox news. There is an opening
