Sure, but the area of effect is indicative of the amount of mass is involved with the singularity as well as it's lifespan. Not even every star in the universe contains enough mass to naturally collapse into one yet he (going with the Air-walker thing) converted a maybe 300 lbs humanoid into a black hole with a sizable accretion disc. What he's saying is a massive reduction almost as bad as Abhilegend's which is just straight up disregarding it completely
Originally posted by psycho gundamSure, but the requirement for large mass is only in regards to natural formation of a black hole from a dying star - an artificial one can be created as long as you compress mass from mostly anything, and Surfer's feat was exactly that.
Sure, but the area of effect is indicative of the amount of mass is involved with the singularity as well as it's lifespan. Not even every star in the universe contains enough mass to naturally collapse into one yet he (going with the Air-walker thing) converted a maybe 300 lbs humanoid into a black hole with a sizable accretion disc. What he's saying is a massive reduction almost as bad as Abhilegend's which is just straight up disregarding it completely
I'm not sure if it's h1's point [and I don't care], but it's a great feat...for matter manipulation. It's not exactly 'shoot your energy at it until it goes boom'.
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I don't know why we're going about about 'space cheese' though - everybody who's read comics long enough knows they're superseded by combat feats. I'm more impressed by a blast beating Magog than one creating a blackhole, for example.
Originally posted by psycho gundamBlack holes don't need stellar mass to be born - the lower limit is literally orders of magnitude smaller. If you mean that the 'size' of the black hole [i.e. its radius] implies the amount of mass it would have, that's true. The mass itself is not constant either - as it 'eats' the matter around it, it grows in mass. But the bottom line is that it still involves mass, and not a 'blast'. You can't blast your way into creating a blackhole. The feat is energy/matter manipulation and as such, I don't think it's suitable for this thread [besides being space cheese]
Black holes of that nature require large steller mass to be born and he didn't have anything close to that. Scientific notation is required to show how much mass he didn't have to create a black hole that was accreting matter all around it, yet there it was
Originally posted by leonidas
😂
"He created that black hole, destroyed that planet, destroyed that star".
Who gives a shit honestly? When Surfer can honestly beat anyone worth anything with energy blasts, do let me know.
Like this.
Not blowing up planets and shit.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He created a black hole where Airwalker's body lay. As per the comic, it was created from his very own energy discharge. There was nothing about warping Airwalker's body into a black hole. It was done casually to boot. This is why it was so impressive.
Originally posted by abhilegend
These type of threads are just the same as always."He created that black hole, destroyed that planet, destroyed that star".
Who gives a shit honestly? When Surfer can honestly beat anyone worth anything with energy blasts, do let me know.
Like this.
*skip*
Not blowing up planets and shit.
It's really absurd to go by space cheese.
I mean, if you look at how Black Bolt's [weakeaned] scream does against Thanos:
http://imgur.com/a/imqfa#0
and compare it to how Surfer's blasts do against him:
http://i.imgur.com/qPdyStD.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/sumyhwj.png
It's laughable.
Or how Thor treats Surfer's blasts:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7zhkrga0Chg/T6GrnlRWKCI/AAAAAAAABoc/l6POr-GX0F8/s1600/Hero-Envy-Silver-Surfer-vs-Thor9b.jpg
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-Mighty-Thor-2011/Issue-5?id=31364#4
When we have Sentry shitting himself from Black Bolt's whisper etc.
Main point - doing random cool shit in space means nothing in fights. Otherwise Classic Drax is king.
I wouldn't even put Surfer's attacks in top 3 as far as this thread is concerned.
